he wants nationbuilding at home. he wants to retreat for bigger government.and paul want to do it for the sake of smaller government. i know that is a character -- caricature. when rand paul makes the case that somehow we are bankrupting ourselves in for an ventures that is not true. >> let me move to other candidates. jeb bush. >> does jeb bush have a foreign policy? i don't know. is he going to be so snake by the association with his brother. that is going -- that he is going to endorse other foreign policy? >> it is a pleasure having you here. bret stephens. the book is called america in retreat -- the new isolationism and the coming of global disorder. i suspect these ideas will be central to the debate about the next american president. back in a moment. stay with us. ♪ >> ricardo moti is here. he has led some of the world's best orchestras, including the the yen up phil-- -- he became the 10th director of the chicago symphony. here's a look at beethoven's fifth. ♪ he will lead the chicago symphony orchestra beginning january 30. welcome. >> thank you. >

i envision an america with a national defense unparalleled, undefeatable, and unencumbered by nationbuilding. [applause] i envision a national defense that promotes, as reagan put it, peace through strength. [applause] we must realize we do not project strength by borrowing money from china to send it to pakistan. it angers me to see mobs burning our flag and chanting "death to america" in companies that receive our foreign aid. [applause] i say it must end. i say not one penny more to these haters of america! [applause] at home, our nation needs new ideas and new answers to old problems. martin luther king spoke of two americas. he described the mystique of starkly different american experiences that exist side-by-side. in one america people experience the opportunity of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. in the other america, people experience the daily ugliness that dashes hope and leaves only the fatigue of despair. i was born into the america that experiences and believes an opportunity. but my trips to ferguson and detroit, atlanta and chicago have revealed what i consider to

i will never suggest that we should engage in nationbuilding or trying to convert all these people to our way of life. we need stable, and we need to -- we need stability, and we need to stop this. >> this is a conversation we've had for many months. you know, should there be u.s. ground troops or not. you heard governor kasich i will love to have you weigh in on that. >> yeah, brooke. really what we're talking about, they don't have to be our boots on the ground. we need all the infrastructure that we've got from an intelligence and a communication standpoint. that's what's important from a u.s. characteristic standpoint. and we have advisers on the ground what's really important is to leverage all of our elements of national power. we have political power. we have diplomatic power. we have economic power. we have information power. and yes, we have military power. and it's the sink situation of all of those -- think back to the first gulf war when we had about 40 nations, many of them arab lined up on the border to retake kuwait. that's the kind of finesse that we need here where yo

i envisioned in america -- n america with the national defense unbeatable and unencumbered by nationbuilding. [applause] i envision a national defense that promotes, as reagan put it, peace through strength. we must realize we do not project strength by borrowing money from china to send it to pakistan. [applause] it angers me to see mobs burning our flag and chanting, death to america, in countries that receive our foreign aid. [applause] i say it must end. i say not one penny more to these haters of america. [applause] at home, our nation needs new ideas and new answers to old problems. martin luther king spoke of two america's. he described them as different experiences that exist side-by-side. in one america people experience the opportunity of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. in another they experience a daily ugliness that dashes hope. i was born into the america that experiences and believes in opportunity. but my trips to ferguson and detroit and atlanta and chicago have revealed what i consider to be an undercurrent of neds. -- unease. liberal policies have failed our in