but it has to be a focus. >> nationbuilding. >> what you were talking about quite correctly is nationbuilding. but nationbuilding as a consequence of the war in iraq has been delegitimize it as an objective of american foreign-policy. if what you are saying is a must be re- legitimated and what cannot solve this problem without addressing and social a local roots then in fact what everyone thinks about the war in iraq, it is important to understand nationbuilding may have to be restored. >> but that would take an act of courage. >> a new election at the least. >> so, one of the negative effects, europe and the inaction over the course of the 1st part of the crisis is it left -- let the left -- let the rest of the world off the hook. why should anyone do anything and support? and that is what you were hearing a lot of. we have to break that cycle. we have canada which is taken 20,000 refugees, a small country has signaled it is willing to take another hundred thousand. they are talking about the equivalent of two2 million. canada can do it. brazil has taken and quite a few. the immediate goal

think of refugees as the next form of nationbuilding. these are the people who will go back to syria under the country. would educate them and make them become believers in our values. we have to educate them to make them skilled. they will be able to go back and become the engineers and journalists that's how you nation build the i send in your army. >> many already do believe in our values. we are talking about, a local was a secular city -- aleppo. we are not like the people who need to be introduced to these things for the first time. >> absolutely but the kids were being educated here can go back or stay here and create networks that will help their society thrive. taking care of refugees come educating the kids in particular, the unaccompanied minors is going to be the key to solving these problems over the long term. >> still advocating we work around our leader rather than through them. >> absolutely because they hold the keys to the kingdom. >> and they are a little bit hopeless. in this country right now, i have democratic fron

but it has to be a focus. >> nationbuilding. >> what you were talking about quite correctly is nationbuildingt nationbuilding as a consequence of the war in iraq has been delegitimize it as an objective of american foreign-policy. if what you are saying is a must be re- legitimated and what cannot solve this problem without addressing and social a local roots then in fact what everyone thinks about the war in iraq, it is important to understand nationbuilding may have to be restored. >> but that would take an act of courage. >> a new election at the least. >> so, one of the negative effects, europe and the inaction over the course of the 1st part of the crisis is it left -- let the left -- let the rest of the world off the hook. why should anyone do anything and support? and that is what you were hearing a lot of. we have to break that cycle. we have canada which is taken 20,000 refugees, a small country has signaled it is willing to take another hundred thousand. they are talking about the equivalent of two2 million. canada can do it. brazil has taken and quite a few. the immediate goal must

first of all, no ten year war, no nationbuilding, no trillion dollars tried to create to create a democracy where none has ever existed. we know whether training camps, social media sites are. we should work first with the troops on the ground, the kurdish and supply them with a sophisticated weapons, financing, and training that they have not gotten from this administration. [applause]. they have not gotten it from this administration because this ridiculous policy of this administration because everything has to go through baghdad. that is largely controlled by iran and they do not want the kurds to have a strong independent fighting force, but we do. we do. we have got to arm supply, support and help them take the fight to isis. [applause]. the same thing with the is 80s, almost 1 million christians who were barbaric massacred when isis attacked them, they are fighting them. they're part of the reason that's in jars been taken back from isis, but they do not have the training, support, weapons, finance and help from americans. if i'm and help from americans. if i'm president, they'll get

a couple of years where we had trouble with afghanistan is when the mission falls into one of nationbuilding when we simply didn't realize what we were getting into and didn't have the resources to back it up but we need a long-term strategy. so we need one if we haven't got an idea but it should be. we've been talking about disrupting the financial flows and business interest for at least a year if not 18 months. why are we not disrupting the business and financial interest? why aren't we doing more to disrupt the prominence on social media? we talked about it many times but i do not see any evidence that is actually disrupting the prominence. something we should tackle for the ideology and the sectarianism of the groups that as a long-term strategy i don't see much evidence of that. where are those questions to our allies in the region about feeding this extremism. what but can i get to the point that has been raised before further foreign affairs committee recent visit to the middle east who only managed to get back for the bannister's state about these troops we all know and accept you c

this does not mean that we repeat all of the nationbuilding and naivete, but does mean that we must denyterritory. we cannot remit them to rape, crucify,, terrorize, to sell into slavery their enemies. prepare toet them impose jihad around the world. all are threatened as is every nation in europe. the kurds, all are fighting isis to some extent and all have asked for support, .eapons, material, intelligence mostly this administration has said no, but i will say yes. represent real threats. we mustto confront stand with our allies now. our we fail to stand with allies they lose courage and our adversaries move forward. on day one, i will make two phone calls. the first will be to my friend bibi netanyahu. to reassure him that we will stand with the state of israel always. i have been saying this publicly month after month after month. because i know that even our allies who do not always agree with israel watch how we are treating this exceptional nation and our exceptional allied israel. they conclude if we are treating them in the way we have been then their friendship does not mean mu

with jim dobbins, one of our most accomplished state builders, and they argue for some potential nationbuildingll. host: good morning. you are on the air. caller: good morning. you can hear me? host: we can. well you were arguing about the approach in 2002, -- while you were arguing about the approach in 2002, i was saying you should start with the misadventure of syria. you would have a beachhead on the ocean. you could show that you knew what you were trying to do before you try it in a thicker country like iraq. at this point, -- in a bigger country like iraq. at this point, we are supporting saudi arabia in yemen. we are doing nothing to actually figure out how to get rid of the poison which is what hobbies and -- is wahabism. still, in 2016, next week, we are not agreeing that the best way to turn saudi arabia insignificant in the future is to throw everything we have into renewable energy, because we have a lot of oil companies this morning who are going to be advertising on tv. make sure the channels, abc, nbc, cbs, don't talk about it. host: hello there for mr. o'hanlon to respond to --

the ground when it is sunni and shia that have takinghat, you are also on the responsibly of nationbuildingat is impossible. if people are going to help themselves, how are we? look at iraq, look at afghanistan. how do you get that support role right? that is a fine question. i would pay a lot of attention to our military commanders. i would also be concerned about the mission creek questions. you get our questions -- soldiers in there and the next thing we know we are fighting the war. host:'s mission creep happening? guest: there is escalation, but in some part it is beyond control. when isis to this horrible thing in paris, that was an enormous, alarming situation about the domestic threats isis can post with people who have no particular respect for their own lives, let alone anyone else's. host: peter welch, our guest. about isis and other topic. 202-748-8001 four republicans, 202-748-8000 for democrats, 202-748-8002 for independents. tommy from akron, ohio, democrats line, you are on with our guest, good morning. caller: greetings from ohio. i have a quick, two-part question. i just t