are you essentially they were talking about disbelieves challenging the idea of the nationstate. can you have the nation without some shared religious values or descriptions are that kind of thing? >> guest: the challenge is to have a nation, which allows for citizens to have certain freedom. but the same time, not to rub against one another in ways that are going to cause conflict. if my definition of what i should do religiously about something that will enjoy their neighbor, where to buy rates begin? would say i have a curse base that is very noisy at certain times of the week. are my neighbors allowed to stop me from being noise? there's no right or wrong answer. there has to be some deliberation on how to make that work. one of the ways in which we've made this very pluralistic society that has worked ideally is to have a form of secularism, which i described as cultural secularist and in many parts of the country in which folks try not to say deliberately promote their religious identity in public. they might have a bumper sticker on their car. they might have a cross or ch

the greeks are very pro-european and they believe their nationstate does belong in europe. they have grown very apprehensive and cynical of such remarks. they have also learned by now to decode a lot of them. deep in these upbeat statements, particularly the european commission president, there were some very worrying lines about how fragile the situation still remains in greece. it has many of them already fearing that this could spell more pain down the road. >> we will have to leave it there. thanks for joining us from athens. in turkey, the government has fired the country's deputy police chief. the highest-ranking figure to be brought down in a purge. >> accused of a bogus corruption scandal that has hurt the image of the ruling party, they are voicing their concern. >> turkey is a candidate for membership to the eu. hundreds of police have been fired for investigating government corruption. russells says that is not how they do things in europe. >> it could undermine the current investigations and capacity of the judiciary and police to investigate matters in an indep

susceptible will be -- a kind of nationstate under the control of the most radical elements? want to discuss this issue, which is very important, we have to speak about the role region forans in the the past hundreds of years. you have to look at the threat coming from the israelis and egypt. you have to look at the relation between syria and lebanon, syria and its neighbors. this is not something to describe in a short interview. make,int that i want to syria,port of iran, for and getting the syrian government -- it is very legitimate. the syrian government is a government. it has been recognized by the united nations. it is recognized by the international committee as a government. there are some problems over there, of course, we will not deny. is that important thing we have to have people from syria -- >> that iran support will russia and the united states are trying to do with respect to the chemical weapons and getting them out of the country? and develop some kind of dialogue that will lead to a january 22, some conversations in geneva? ass iran want to participate se

pretty plum acquisition that has a lot of attention because it specializes in cyber espionage from nationstatesike china. they got a lot of attention when they responded to attacks like on the new york times. their ipo did really well and it did enough to create this acquisition but a link between this company that has a product and a company that does a lot of very sophisticated response is pretty powerful. the stock went way up. it's a good acquisition for them. >> thank you so much for joining us here today on "bloomberg west." college football's biggest game is just a few days away but who stands to be the biggest winner? not necessarily the teams. that's next on "bloomberg west errico -- "bloomberg west." ♪ >> welcome back. the nfl playoffs kick off this weekend that fans in three of the four cities hosting the games may not get to see them. that's because the games in reading bay, indianapolis and cincinnati are on the verge of being blacked out on local television unless they sell out in the next 24 hours. this comes as more people forgo the stadium experience in exchange for watching ga

we are uncovering a lot of the criminal organizations, a lot of the nationstate organizations.ow, we have really caught up. stay aheadly, we can of the competition with all of the intelligence that we bring with our recent acquisition. talking about president obama as soon as this next week he will speak about spying on overseas political leaders, how important is it both politically and for people in your business, that move, that statement? >> for the most part, cybersecurity and the risks for cybersecurity in the last few years were never really well- known by the leaders of the world. to watch president obama's elevation of knowledge and interest in these topics is really important. we are watching cyberspace he a very dangerous space right now. dangerous space right now. not just the monitoring, but the dealings and sabotage going on. it is important to focus on how to make cyber peace and create treaties around the world that allow us to operate our businesses without the risk of intrusions or damage that could occur. >> we saw some photos of angela merkel, the german cha

and the nationstate of the jewish people.that is our destination. the real challenge is not what is it -- it is just how to get there. how to get the leaders places politics of both to make the courageous decisions necessary to embrace what would be fair and what would work. that is why i working with president abbas and not in netanyahuachieve -- to define the endgame and provide guidelines for negotiators in their efforts to a final peace agreement. i've watched for over 30 years in the united states senate. i saw when the great handshake took place. andtched a annapolis oslo and all these efforts. people of had to wonder, when or if the real peace can be achieved. one of the biggest challenges in reaching this agreement is security. the palestinians need to know that at the end of the day, their territories going to be free of israeli troops. occupation ends. rightfully will not with drawl unless they know that the west bank will not become a new gaza. nobody can blame any leader of israel for being concerned about that re

now you have a nationstate that is proven to you chemical, biological weapons on its own people and it's still pursuing bigger weapons of mass destruction, i understand that mentality to go in that country. so i guess hindsight is 20 tony. i am becoming a bigger and bigger -- 2020. hindsight maybe more vigorous covert action to dethrone saddam and put another guy in charge was probably the better course. but again, hindsight is 20/20. the sad thing is america did have an ally, a decent iraqi city forces and after all that blood, tall, treasure and ever, let it slip away really from i was a diplomatic and difference. >> the gentleman in the back. >> erik, thank you for coming and talking with us. curious about benghazi. i know you weren't involved in the company wasn't involved, but what if you can comment on that was not done properly they are from a security perspective, what should've been done? >> the beginning, the middle and the end. to start with, they depended on basically a local militia, a company that hired local libyans unvetted, and trained, and even ill equipped. there's evi

of return for palestinians pay with blood israel with people who don't approve of there being a nationstate for the jewish people. eventually there has to be land compromise whereby israel maintains its boundaries at the security border now that -- but exchangexchanges land for land i think everybody knows what a solution will look like. what we need is the will to bring it about. i think there has to be greater will on all sides, trying to really on the part of visual, on the part of the palestinians and the united states. i'm optimistic. i think it's a good time for a compromise resolution so that the world can focus on the real problem of the middle east, which is iran. >> let me bring it back home. how do we balance our first amendment rights when it comes to issues of national security? >> adlai. we don't do a very good job. we overclassify enormously -- badly. if you look at everything that is classified today, i think you would come to the conclusion 90% of it is designed to protect the reputations of incoming administrators rather than to protect the national interest of our country

>> nationstates. we are seeing military operations ramping up -- >> chinese military.. almost every day. the question i have for you, governments should assume that other governments are spying on them. governments should assume -- companies should assume that the government is spying on them. why does china stand out in this regard? or is it just like any other country? >> i will start. what we are watching. the internet has created a perfect platform of evil. it has a lot of anonymity, it is hard to the skies -- >> are you scaring people for your business model? >> a good business strategy. >> the reality is, the internet has created an interesting world. the innovation is creating and helping attackers be successful. the chinese military, russian business networks, searing yrianronic army. -- s electronic army. it is easy to attack corporations and infrastructure. is so shocking about companies spying on each other or governments spying on other governments? is there anything surprising about what we are seeing? you asked about china. one thing interesting, their go

it's not just between egypt and israel or a certain nationstate in israel.it's between all jews and all arabs until the day of judgment comes. the jews will be wiped off the map. it's not me saying it. it is yusuf, the muslim brotherhood's most influential figure today. if you don't believe me the book is meticulously footnoted, and it's a funny thing when you pulled people out of their mouths. it is also a funny thing because when people tell me they want to kill me until the jewish people, ideally them undertaken at their word. hitler said the same thing in "mein kampf" in the 1920s. he was ignored and blown off company tried to make it a reality. the muslim brotherhood has been saying the same thing. they try to enforce policies and alone power in europe to make that a reality. from the beginning the muslim brotherhood collaborated with the nazis, collaborate with hitler's minions and hitler's war machine to extend the final solution from europe into the middle east and north africa. to eradicate the jews in the middle east and north africa. collaborated

the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, aggressive nationstate intelligence efforts against us. and assertive russia, a competitive china, a dangerous unpredictable north korea, a challenging iran, a lingering ethnic divisions in the balkans, perpetual conflict and extremism in africa, violent political struggles, and among others, the ukraine, burma, thailand and bangladesh. the specter of mass atrocities and the increasing stress of burgeoning populations, the urgent demand for energy, water and food. the increasing sophistication of transnational crime. the tragedy and magnitude of human trafficking. the in situ is rot of invented synthetic drugs. i could go on with this litany, but suffice to say we live in a complex, dangerous world. a statement for the record that we've submitted, particularly the classified version, provide a comprehensive view of these and other daunting challenges. my second topic is what is consumed extraordinaire time and energy for much of the past year. the intelligence community and the congress and the white house, and, of course, in the publi

remember when the olympics were super interesting, nationstates, blood in the pool between hungary ands more interesting to see how the conflict play out. cheryl: we were saying we watch last night, the grammy awards. has pretty controversial moment and the surprising winners and losers. is the grammys a relevant piece to the music industry? it is so fractured, right? dennis: some riveting performances, great energy, but would a funeral be more appropriate? four years of business has been wracked by online and the internet. in 2013 for the first time after years of injuries, even digital download sales fell because more services are rising. look at the big winners, macklemore and ryan lewis for best new artist. three new rap awards. no music label, they distribute independently on itunes underscoring the challenge they face. cheryl: some of them self produced, they could no cannot e industry to recognize them. cheryl: i would celebrate that. on the wrong person when it comes to pop culture to be honest with you. my son hit me to a few new rap artists, but other than that, i am not a gr

. >> we have a lot of cybercapabilities that are associated with criminal organizations and nationstateshave adequately responded to it. and we have an examination to come up with this multiyear plan. and we will take it within that timeframe and i think that members of congress have expressed an interest. and it will be with us, i expect, throughout the duration that will only give orders. and the dangers will only be heightened. >> i spoke to the fbi cyberdivision yesterday morning. and used the example of the united states air force. and it began as a subcomponent of the army signal corps. and the other thing i want to raise with you is that many of us have been shocked by the discrepancy between the filings of political organizations have made and they had spent tens of millions of dollars in political activity. and i expect that that will reflect false statements under section 1001. and there have been no cases because the iris hasn't referred anything. and now they have decided to take a look at those rules. and make sure that you are comfortable were the rules are coming out and m

on the sunni side beginning in the where there970's was the recognition that the new modern era nationstates were not madeioning well, which people very receptive to the claim of the muslim brotherhood that what was missing was islam. time, there came to be many other parties preaching the same message, except offering different versions of it. revolution in79 iran which also said the solution is a long -- islam, only our kind. that set inks in motion powerfully. vigor isgiven it great what happened going forward from 2011. you see that particularly therfully in syria where sides are both sectarian. that hashardly anyone any weight on the scene that speaks in terms of it being a struggle not cast in sectarian terms. what powerfully happened is there came to be yet another phase of the notion that something new is coming to the fore. what it could have been, possibly a democratic reform. but what it seemed to be in many places was a testimony to the power of islamic movements. all of that has nurtured the force of islamic sentiments. is sort ofme, there an agreement that islam is important, b

also that means when nation states can become ever going to live on this planet, we cannot have nationstateslike we did before. we require some kind of local governance which you could argue we're slowly, painfully evolving towards. over the time since the invention of weapons. i actually think that in the long run this technology -- in the end there's only one thermostat for the planet. if we are going to manage this technology stably including deciding not to use or when to use or when the user, in a way that doesn't have kind of instabilities that would lead to war between states in the long run, i think it requires some kind of global governance force they can comply states who want to use it, or not use it. it requires kind of reshaping of the global governance system that has to affect many other technologies. there's a series of far-reaching that make the old system of governance untenable. that sort of far-reaching than 100 your answer. my near-term answer is that we need to pretty quickly start to have multilateral agreements, first kind of agreements in principle that are not treat

for beginning in the 60s and early 70's when there was a recognition that the new modern era of nationstates weren't functioning very well. which made people very receptive to the claim of say the muslim brotherhood that what was missing was islam. over time, there came to be many other parties reaching the same message except offering different versions of it. that is you have the 79 revolution in iran which also said the solution is islam only it's our kind. and so that sets things you know in motion in that direction very powerfully and then i think what has really given it very great figure is what happened in 2011 and you can see that particularly powerfully as michael was saying in syria are you where the sides are explicitly now both sectarian. there is hardly anyone that has any weight that now speaks anymore in terms of it being a struggle that is not cast in sectarian -- but what powerfully happened was that when you had that arab -- that liberated their came to be yet another phase of the notion that something new is coming to the floor but it could have been possibly a democratic