nationstates gather intelligence, they always have. what nationstates must not do, cannot do to be community of nations to steal stuff to make money. that is outside the framework of acceptable nationstate activity and we are making progress making people understand that is a framework that makes sense is whether through indictment or sanctionable publicity we are working hard to make people at keyboard feel our breath on their neck to change that behavior. we got to get to a point where we can reach them as easily as they can reach us and change behavior by that reach out. we must help state and local partners be more effective to and responding to all manner of complaints to citizens about fibercrime, and and training and equipment and task forces, responding to the cry for criticisms for help. people every day are asking about money in nigeria. i am not the president of the federal bureau of investigation, i am not in nigeria, do not wire me money but there are citizens every day scanned in similar ways, we have to help our partners

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certainly other nationstates, nationstates died.zed crime side, the attackers are very sophisticated. we should not in any way discount that. but at the same time, most organizations out there are wonderful. and is always surprising the level of experience being brought to bear insider security. by company was founded offensive hackers, people who were trained by the u.s. government, the cia and the nsa. they came out when this is all happening in the private sector, how far behind the private sector was in behind, they were stunned. so what we are seeing with the dnc hack is a continuation of the fact that it is a hard job for the offenders, and you have increasingly sophisticated elements on the other side going after these defenders. emily: you handled national security on the chain, but how do you differentiate yourself from crowd strike, attaining a, and carbon black? focuses onrbon black the endpoint, which is the device. that is where all the data sets. we offer the most complete coverage of that device. is of the challenges

that links certain groups of nationstates in the wrong one and prior to community practices newcomers inys the this case, in this case, china, interact with the established community and its rules. between 1972, nixon visits china and at night teen 78, normalized relations that the united states changed its long-standing policy of isolating china to one of engagement, integration and assistance. this changei think represented an effort on the into ane to bring china existing community of actresses with the expectation that china would accept those practices and act accordingly so as to maintain a relationship with the entire community. that is the american you. the you wanthand, to point out the chinese view of relationality that is different from the american view. it is multilateral in nature. that means according to traditional chinese thinking, scholars to chinese explain this nature, so this ontological view to treat only issues and not nation states are related with each other. therefore, is it necessary for relatedtionstates to be through practice? it is not necessary. in moder

nationstates gather intelligence, they always have.not do, cannot do to be community of nations to steal stuff to make money. that is outside the framework of acceptable nationstate activity and we are making progress making people understand that is a framework that makes sense is whether through indictment or sanctionable publicity we are working hard to make people at keyboard feel our breath on their neck to change that behavior. we got to get to a point where we can reach them as easily as they can reach us and change behavior by that reach out. we must help state and local partners be more effective to and responding to all manner of complaints to citizens about fibercrime, and and training and equipment and task forces, responding to the cry for criticisms for help. people every day are asking about money in nigeria. i am not the president of the federal bureau of investigation, i am not in nigeria, do not wire me money but there are citizens every day scanned in similar ways, we have to help our partners give them justice. the

effortake seriously any by any actor, including nationstates, maybe especially nationstates, that movesd a collection of information about our country and that offers a prospect of an effort to influence affairs in that country whether the selections or anything else. mark: federal officials have raised the possibility that this are trying to disrupt voting in november. hillary clinton has an eight point lead over donald trump in pennsylvania according to a poll that showed clinton leading trump in the battleground state. gary johnson, 39% support trump and 36% back clinton. chris christie has vetoed an attempt to raise the state's minimum wage to at least $15 over the next five years. the republican announced his action earlier today saying increased cost would burden small businesses. democratic leaders have said they would pursue a constitutional amendment to raise the wage without the need for the government and's approval. killed while surveying the group passes defenses. a syrian national. brazil president has failed to convince the senators who will decide if she is permanently r

, whichone, the country i'm writing about, was never really a nationstate as modeled by the state plan. quickly led to a very violent state building process. medium-term, the issue was the international community imposed the peace plan on a government that clearly rejected that plan. the fighting that broke out was a result of trying to force the opposition group into the capital, putting two armies in one place. a lot of people criticize that as not a very good idea. the result was just more fighting. >> thank you for joining us. time for an update on the rio olympics. u.s. swimmers have been stopped from boarding a flight home by brazilian police. they are being questioned about how they and two teammates were allegedly robbed at gunpoint in rio. authorities say their accounts do not match up. the lawyers say the swimmers will cooperate but not until the tension is cleared up. >> these two olympic champions were about to fly home. but, they were stopped from boarding. police wanted to question them their accounts- of being robbed outside the olympic village. team usa confirmed the de

thathere is no evidence they have the desire to support a greater degree of sovereignty for nationstates. even if it did, the euro is going to exercise a compelling pressure to clamp down even more tightly on remaining nationstates. for fear of another greece. so, i am perfectly willing to hope for the best, but unfortunately, in this case, i fear, as i have in the past >>, for the worst. and victoriarianne azarenka make any closing comments. >> i think the eu will still remain a desirable place to be a member of four countries which are very poor. an good example, belarus, ukraine, georgia would love to join, i'm sure. the question is whether the eu can maintain the prosperous well-run countries, which also infuse the european institutions with a certain level of accountability, such as that is, or if you will, good governance, opposition to corruption and so on. if denmark goes, if holland goes, if sweden goes, then you're really stuck with southern and european eastern states and the eu becomes a something very different. and finally, in terms of what will the eu look like, getting ou

, especially nationstates that moves beyond the collection of information about our country and thatffers the prospect of an effort to influence the conduct of affairs in our country whether that's an election or something else. >> you mentioned senate democratic leader harry reid jumping on this as well, he's a surrogate of course for hillary clinton demanding that komi opened an investigation of donald trump and his ties to vladimir putin. he's writing the evidence of a direct connection between the russian government and donald trump's presidential campaign continues to mount. the acting cia director calls from an unwitting agent of russia and the kremlin, you will remember trump was left off these allegations of close association with vladimir putin but it is clear that especially with the latest revelations about states being targeted, that all of this is going to be a big issue between now and november . jon: there wouldn't be any politics in the area concerned, when there? >> i can't imagine, the democratic leader supports hillary clinton but maybe there's something there. jon

but we take very seriously any effort by any actor, including nationstates that moves beyond the collection of information about our country, and offers the prospect of an effort to influence the conduct of affairs in our country. whether that is an election or something else, i do not want to comment on the particulars. but those kinds of things are something we take very seriously and work hard to understand so we can equip the rest of our government with options for how to deal with it. that is all i will say at this point. >> you talk about deterrence, and along the same lines, a year ago obama signed an agreement to try to work out how to not have intellectual property theft. what are you saying as far as what we have seen from the chinese in the past year? it sounds like you're trying to change their behavior through an agreement like that. i was wondering what you had to say about that. also, how you think we should react to the russians -- have we done anything along those lines in the administration to react to that? mr. comey: i will only answer the first part of that come up for

we take very seriously any efforts by any actor, including be especiallymay nationstates, to influence the conduct of affairs in our country, whether that is an election or something else. thousands of dnc documents were released on the eve of last month's democratic convention, embarrassing e-mails that led to the resignation of debbie wasserman schultz. there has been a hack in arizona and oklahoma which is believed to have come from russia. other campaign headlines, in the past half-hour donald trump tweeted he plans to meet with the president of mexico tomorr before his immigration speech in phoenix. on the democratic side, hillary clinton will he speaking to the maryland can -- to the mayor king legion in cincinnati. -- to the american legion in cincinnati. multiple severe weather threats in the news for different parts of the country. two hurricanes making their way towards hawaii. one could affect hawaii by early thursday. the other could hit closer to the weekend. both have winds up to 120 miles per hour. on the east coast, dangerous rip currents from the tropical depressions o

you take that and put it with a nationstate and you look at what a are doing and you look at what a number of countries around the world are doing, you're kind of in a battlefield more similar to what we would have thought it would look like during a cold war. but i think much more complicated. the chief of the russian military, wrote a really good paper what -- about what he thought the battlefield would look like. i read it three times. he talks about what he calls fighting a war without fighting a war. the use of information and social media, disinformation, the use of special forces to engage with local forces that may have a political beef with their own country, what we would call conventional forces might somehow be involved in that. you add to that and adversary that would have a capable air force, a capable artillery, capable electronic warfare to find you or to jam you, who can see you, when was the last time an american military force worried about being bombed by enemy air? world war ii? so what capability to we have to defend ourselves from enemy air or enemy unmanned air? can

. >> we take very seriously any efforts by any after, including -- actor, including nationstates, to influence the conduct of affairs in our the fbi will also be releasing reports relating to its investigation of hillary clinton's private e-mail server. they expect about 30 new e-mails to come from the fbi soon. jc: thank you. the agricultural department has close offices in five states, after receiving anonymous threats. the closed offices are in colorado, connecticut, maryland, north carolina and west virginia. the department is working with the fbi and federal and local law enforcement to determine whether the threats are credible. ed: from provincetown to west stockbridge, massachusetts is about to get a lot more blue. a group called massachusetts state police wives has started tying blue ribbons in all 351 the goal is to show support for law enforcement officers and their families during what they say has been a difficult year. today, they were at the police department in auburn where officer ronald tarentino was shot and killed in may during a traffic stop. >> it is very time-c

order might apply to individuals on some level, skipping over the intervening level of a sovereign nationstate that might be oppressive. i will say more about this later. there is a reference to a collective security organization. the first international reference to what later becomes the u.n. planning documents. this is the earliest and the liberally vague reference. then thirdly this idea that it applies to everyone across the , not exclusively americans. i have noted this document means different things to different people. churchill clearly intended it as an inspirational anti-not see statement. anti- nazi statement. of -- sort of outcry around the world of various constituencies saying how does the atlantic charter apply to us? maybe we need a pacific or african charter. after a series of press conferences where fdr said we called it that because we were meeting in the atlantic. get it? but it applies all over the world. that's our little cartoon icon of roosevelt pulling it around the world. we have a historical figure from the era, nelson mandela saying -- was so we at the national afr

let's see why that would be so damaging if lost to a nationstate or an activist group. federal or national critical infrastructure data, travel data. think about how much data is out there in terms of who flies, where they fly, who should not be flying. things of that nature. as we know from the opm collection,is bulk background investigations are simply one of them. thinking of the dangers consequences of somebody getting hold of that information is pretty startling. and of course sensitive economic data could have catastrophic consequences on our economy if it were to be lost. the thing that is important to note for this group is that this is not a one-time effort. this is not the federal government saying we have 20 high-value assets across federal government. check, done. that is not what we are talking about. this is a continuous, potentially never ending, risk managing and governing process. for how to manage our crown jewels as an enterprise. that is what this is. the process is underway for identification but the independent verification of security for these as

i'm essentially biased because i am a brit but air in mind that europe is not a single nationstate, its 27 states and alan think of those if you are the commission or relevant authority is very difficult. the atmosphere on the mainland is clearly to tax hell out of them and britain, it's a bit more lackadaisical. the balance in those interest is a priority for them and that leads to that on a regulatory level. ramy: as a bridge and an expert, do you think some of this is because these are american companies question mark is there an element of that kind of discrimination? tox: i'm wary of stepping in stereotypes but if you are french, that might be the case. if you are german or rish, perhaps less the case. if moneya feeling that is being earned in europe, it should be taxed in europe in order to pay for the services europe is good at providing for it citizens. donald trump, and a lot of people in silicon valley do not care for donald trump and tim cook has said he probably doesn't. there is an open letter from 100 tech leaders that says donald trump is a disaster. even know the republ

are debating that exact question and the complexity involved -- publicly admitting something to a nationstate is far different than privately doing so. we saw the u.s. government make significant strides when the sony hack was attributed to the government of north korea. officials are seeing the public benefit for attribution, to hold hostile actors accountable. charlie: how do we hold north korea accountable? how might we hold russia accountable? >> everything from diplomatic action, we have seen diplomatic approach meant with the chinese. to criminal indictments as we saw with several pla actors. to economic sanctions, as we saw in the case of north korea. they have various advantages and his advantages. -- disadvantages. comes upthe question with regards to hillary clinton people do we assume the who did the hackings wanted to would it bever or much more difficult to penetrate? david: what we have heard from the fbi director so far is he said there was no direct evidence that anybody who had gotten inside the server, but he went on to say the actors are usually so good, they might not leav

celebrity hacking comes into play. 2010, we see nationstates rearing their heads, operation , things of this nature. acrobatsing over the accor back adobe stuff. i must i would put on my evangelist hat. , lying steve. there is a -- that happen in 2015. it was really popular this year in case you are black hat folks. the interesting one i want to talk about is some thing called hack.kettle look at that, a bright young student in the room. kettle that you can put on your wireless network to remote control your kettle. what's interesting about the hack, i don't want to make fun for people who want to remotely control their kettle. if you scan it, and send a command to it, you can get it to cough up the wireless lan password. so now the hacker has access to your wireless lan. what is the point of all this? , and mitigation evolves, and they are going to get on our networks, and we are going to try to keep them out, right? so we do. we started with firewalls to keep them out of the network. aboutecently we talked assuming the breach, meaning they will get in our networks, so we have falle

i think that can satisfactorily bust the miss that only a nationstate adversary is what we have to be worried about when these tools and techniques are available to everybody. it is very easy to take advantage of them. we also had an irt village before the highlights was they had a remote controllable wheelchair. i don't know why you would remotely control a wheelchair. somebody has made this thing. was driving up and down the halls without anybody on it because someone had figured out how to control it. that underscores some of the direction we're going to miss completely connected world. now that we got everything connected and everything is accessible and it can be controlled by someone who has a small degree of technical skill and a willingness to use it. there were at least two sitting congress people, to that i know of. in past years there have been more at the event. i think that underscores the importance at least to some tople in d.c. why they want get engaged with the community. with that, i will throw it over and to talk about black hat the cyber grandchild. >> thank you. h

the threat posed by nationstates, by criminal groups , by hacktivists, by insiders to our computer networksour irp networks, from stealing information to fraud to doing damage to networks. in a war situation. cyber is number two. closing down so many of the grades that influence the way you live your life and could destroy the capacity to function. mike: absolutely. number three, i would put north korea on the list of threats because north korea has the capability today to launch a ballistic missile with a nuclear that could reach the united states of america. my think that is going to happen? no, but the risk exists. charlie: why don't you think it will happen? i think he is rational and he understands if he did that it would be the end of his country. we have significant missile defense capabilities, so one could be fired in confusion, one could be fired as a miscalculation and we could deal with it. what i really worry about are two things. that there could be some sort of conflict between north and south korea that could even evolve into a nuclear strike into north korea by south korea.

first of all publicly admitting , something to a nationstate is far different than privately doing sowe saw the u.s. government make significant strides when the sony hack was attributed to the government of north korea. i think officials now are saying more and more the public benefit and need for attribution, to hold hostile actors accountable. charlie: how do we do that? how do we hold north korea accountable? how might we hold russia accountable? >> there is a range of tools of the government's disposal. everything from diplomatic action, we have seen diplomatic approach meant with the chinese. in the wake of a number of chinese hacking activities to criminal indictments, as we saw with several pla actors. two economic sanctions as we saw , in the case of north korea. there are a host of actions they have various advantages and disadvantages. charlie: the quest today often comes up -- the question comes up with regards to hillary clinton server, do we assume the people who did the hackings wanted to hack her server or would it be much more difficult to penetrate? david? question w

first of course, attributing something to a nationstate is far different than privately doing so. we saw the u.s. government make significant strides when the sony hack was attributed to the government of north korea. officials are seeing the public benefit for attribution, to hold hostile actors accountable. charlie: how do we hold north korea accountable? how might we hold russia accountable? >> there is a range of tools at the government's disposal. everything from diplomatic action. we have seen diplomatic approachment with the chinese. to criminal indictments as we saw with several pla actors. to economic sanctions, as we saw in the case of north korea. there is a host of options, all of which have various advantages and disadvantages in terms of practical impact and public messaging to thes a ver air is. -- adversary. charlie: the question comes up with regards to hillary clinton server, do we assume the people who did the hackings wanted to hack her server or would it be much more difficult to penetrate? david: it is a question we have been asking a lot about. what we heavy

we take very seriously any including any actors, nationstates, maybe especially nationstates, that moveseyond the collection of information about our country, and that offers the prospect of an effort to influence the conduct of affairs in our country, whether that is an election or something else. i don't want to comment on the particular, but those kinds of things are something we take very seriously, and work very very hard to understand, so that we can equip the rest of the government with options for how to deal with it. that is i -- all i'm going to say this point. fbiou can see all of the director, he's comments at an event held today on cyber security, at eight p.m. eastern here on c-span. now, white house press secretary josh earnest speaks to reporters briefing.ly he also answers questions about whether americans can have confidence in the election system in light of recent russian hacking. sec. josh earnest: good morning, everybody. i do not have any announcements at the top, so we can go straight to questions. is there any reaction today to the french president saying trade t

i think that can satisfactorily bus a myth that only nationstate adversaries is what we have to worry about when these tools and techniques are available to everybody. it is very easy to take advantage of them. village,ad an iot internet of things village, and one of the highlights for me was they had a remote controllable wheelchair. i do not know why you would want to remotely control a wheelchair, but somebody has made this thing. it was driving up and down the halls without anybody on it because somebody had figured out how to gain access and control it and drive it around. i think that underscores some of the direction that we are going in this completely connected world where now that we have got everything connected, everywhere accessible, therefore it can be controlled by anyone who has a small degree of technical skill and a willingness to use that. there were at least two sitting congress people at defcon this year, two that i know of. in past years, there have been more at that event, so i think that underscores the importance at least to some people in d.c. why they want t

learned through the decision of the government to announce it that we had been the victim of a nationstateattack even before sony was. not know how helpful the announcement was, but it did raise a not know how helpful te announcement was, but it did raisequestion that i think sheila raised in that you sort of have -- the challenges of the general counsel our preparation, and all of these very highly publicized attacks that were designed to gain customer data -- ours was designed to destroy rather than x filtrate data, but the ex filtrate and of personal data becomes the bugaboo of the discuss theave to level of preparedness, the board defense to an immediate brain game, the gentleman from the national association of attorneys general is gone now, but the attorneys general are very fond of jumping into the blame game, even if you are pcia compliant and have sent out the requisite notices to your customers -- not all retailers thought that was a good idea, but we sent out the requisite notices. they immediately want reports, and it becomes a little bit difficult, even with a former law enfor

we need to think about as from the foreign nationstate perspective. that triage is something i want to take away from today that affects all 16 of the sectors. >> if we look at agriculture, there are too many farms. approximately 900,000 firms -- if i could say over five years ago there are things that worry e that worried me. it was true then and is true now. > thank you very much. >> can i have our panelists come to the stage? and while they are being settled, that was a great conversation. one of the things i want to show today is the connecting points between this. these are all interconnected. the more we get stakeholders to understand the dynamics within our national ecosystem, more will start to drive these solutions. the final panel for this evening is going to cover the content of the paper and have some experts share their perspective on what was discussed and share some kind of anecdotes there. to my left we have stacy win, former product manager of point. we also have the vice president of cyber infrastructure at parsons. to the left is pe

exerciseis going to pressure to clamp down even more tightly on remaining nationstates. e forwilling to hop the best, but i fear for the worst. >> any closing comment? >> i think the eu will still remain a desirable place to be a member of her countries which are very poor. --hough the, belarus moldova, ukraine, georgia would love to join. the question is whether the eu can retain the prosperous countries, which infuse with a certain level of accountability, such as it is, or good governance and so on. if denmark, holland, sweden, goes you are stuck with states and the eu become something very different. euterms of what will the look like. getting out of the eu does not believe in isolationism. the discussion is about supranational against intergovernmental. if you can't return to an intergovernmental way of doing things, you get accountability. the government of sweden at sign ed to a certain treaty, they need visa or of the public. if they lose the support, the country withdraws from the treaty. the eu tells you about the way you behave. more intergovernmental listen i

we need to think about as from the foreign nationstate perspective. something i want to take away from today that affects all 16 of the sectors. if we look at agriculture, there are too many farms. 900,000 firms -- if i could say over five years there are things that worry me that worried me. it was true then and is true now. >> thank you very much. [applause] can i have our panelists come to the states? ?- stage and while they are being settled, that was a great conversation. one of the things i want to show today is the connecting points between this. these are all interconnected. the more we get stakeholders to understand the dynamics within our national ecosystem, more thesetart to drive solutions. the final panel for this evening is going to cover the content of the paper and have some experts share their perspective on what was discussed and share some kind of anecdotes there. win, left we have stacy former product manager of point. vice presidente of cyber infrastructure at parsons. pete and the far left is the ceo of critical infrastructure. l

so we assign in the cyber threat team model, a particular threat that comes at us from a certain nationstate assign that to the little rock division because the little rock division has demonstrated tremendous ability against that threat. fools aboutot important physical manifestations because that threat will touch particular enterprises around the country, and the ceos of those enterprises will want to know, has the fbi been here to talk nature, and what is that of the investigation, and how is it going? to make sure we can accommodate rhat need, we will allow fou other offices to help the team in little rock. offices will be able to assist in the investigation, but the lead will be in little rock. and the air traffic control will make sure we are not duplicating effort or sending can -- confusing messages. we are trying this, we have been doing it now for about a year and a half. seems to be working pretty well. it has set up healthy competition within the fbi, but we are confronting a challenge in a way of doing work we have never seen before. so we are eager for feedback. we want to be

you take that and put it with a nationstate and you look at what a are doing and you look at what a number of countries around the world are doing, you're kind of in a battlefield more similar to what we would have thought it would look like during a cold war. but i think much more complicated. the chief of the russian wrote a really good paper what -- about what he thought the battlefield would look like. i read it three times. callsks about what he fighting a war without fighting a war. the use of information and social media, disinformation, the use of special forces to engage with local forces that may have a political beef with , what we wouldry call conventional forces might somehow be involved in that. you add to that and adversary that would have a capable air artillery,pable capable electronic warfare to find you or to jam you, who can was the last time an american military force byried about being bombed enemy air? by enemy air? world war ii? so what capability to we have to defend ourselves from enemy air or enemy unmanned air? can we mask our signature? i don't know what the ba

belligerent the in the international system and even nonbinding pacts when agreed to by morally upright nationstates actually can have that kind of power in the world. in some ways, appeasement is in keeping with that. in other ways, i think we can problem and ties -- problematize the ties i just made. because americans, if you are teaching or writing for american audiences, knows a little about world war i. that isn't to say it's more important necessarily but when you look to the policy makers, read constituent letters, you find the lessons of world war i all over the 1920's and 1930's and world war ii context. the postwar planning in the work can'tra seems like -- you disaggregate that from the world war i moment and historical memory and imagination. on the other hand, i think i agree with you that there is something distinct about the world war ii moment, especially if you go back to 1939. this is sort of what andrew was saying. you go to the late 1930's, you at least get a longer sense of the formation of that period. all the toughest parts of his question remain for you, andrew. >> thank you

the us and international communities we are not going to promote separatism for the end of the nationstate system, the reality of these demand with the reality of us policy and in the international community. i don't think we are there yet. i don't think the us and international community need to do more without getting in the weeds because we don't want to do that. we are going to have to do more because for now, our policy is focused on the humanitarian situation. our partners in the war against isis working with the curtis dan democratic party exclusively is a big problem. there are a lot of minority communities that do not want exclusive return of these areas and willing to compromise and accommodate, we need in our policies to look at how we are going to balance and accommodate local independent forces which is supported by them. how are we going to take them away and reintegrate them into iraq or the curtis dan regional government depending on what they want? there is another big issue here not just about local forces compromising with baghdad, it is also about letting minority commu

to a nationstate or an activist group or you name it. the travel data think about how much is out there in terms of who flies and where they fly. as we know from the opm incidents the bulk collection that was used for a friday of reasons and thinking of the dangerous consequences of someone getting a hold of that information is pretty startling. and then sensitive economic data that has catastrophic consequences if they were to be lost. the thing that's important to note for this group though this is not a one-time effort. it's not the federal government seen we had 20 high dollar assets. the fellow were talking about here. this was a never ending risk management for how to manage them as an enterprise. in so the process is very much underway for not just edification but the independent verification of the security of these assets and the ream remediation of the security around these assets. the process of identifying those and prioritizing them and verified the security and remediating them will likely never end anytime soon and then th

it was this thesis that nationstates don't reform. whether they are developing or rich, unless they hit rock bottom. and i think the imf and world bank -- the imf and world bank, i think at one point, they played a role. they were created in 1944 in the early postwar history. there was a massive shortage of dollars. europeans couldn't porches -- dollars and europeans couldn't purchase imports. that was the purpose of the imf, to provide world liquidity. but i don't think they serve a useful purpose anymore, which is why i'm a little more hopeful. things that don't work eventually die. >> i would say on the point -- i also worked worked in detroit as a young man, just by the way. my perspective is i worked at ford motor company and now we have many better automobiles and trucks and what have you because of global competition. and the system that was built on protectionism of the big three collapsed. that's what you see is the disaster of detroit. can we maybe go to david kreuzer for just a second? i'm sure we have questions from the au

we face in global strategy today with the so-called conflicts and wars, if you will, below the nationstate conflicts that many of us are used to and many of our organizations have been trained to do and the united states and our allies have been good at that. this is a new environment below that level. some people call it the gray zone of conflict and the like. others say we are in a new generation of warfare, the fourth generation of warfare. they talk about that quite a bit. some see that as a framework for the future. there is a lot of discussion. a lot of well-meaning intellectual thought goes into this challenge. it is not something we are ignoring, but it is doggone hard to get your arms around and determine what to do. in the united states of america in particular, a high level of moral and ethical thought crosses go into everything we do. it is not like some of the other nations, radicals, that kind of thing. this was true in world war ii, for example. we would have difficulty dealing with operations and guerrilla warfare and the like. problems past less of a -- had less of a probl

if you take that up at it with a nationstate and you look at what they are doing, and you look at what a number of countries are doing around the world, you are kind of in a battlefield that is more similar to what we would have thought it would have looked like during a cold war. but i think much more complicated. the chief of the russian military wrote a really good paper about what he thought the future battlefield was going to look like. i read it three times. i think he talks about what he calls "fighting a war without fighting a war." the use of information and social media, disinformation, deception the use of special , forces to engage with local forces that may have a political beef with their own country, how what we would call conventional forces might somehow be involved in that. you at into that an adversary that would have a capable air force, a capable artillery, capable electronic warfare to find you or to jam you, who can see you. i'm in, we have not worried about -- when was the last time an american military force worried about being bombed by enemy air? world war ii

activity and all of the different groups that can be criminal sts,nizations, hacktivi terrorists, nationstates. it does not matter from the perspective of an owner or operator of the web system or other connected system. you just need to find the vulnerabilities and remove them before they are maliciously used. for us, it is important to know where the attack comes from. for you as building a defense, it does not really matter. you need to take every step to protect yourself in respect of of where the threat is coming from. >> you talk to companies obviously quite a bit when you are negotiating with them and helping them out with legal situations. more willingness to view the government as an oppositional force? sometimes yes, especially with messaging companies. the government is definitely seen as an oppositional force. it is a field of dreams problem, because if you collect the data, they will come in for values that would include attackers, organized crime, law enforcement. if the data is there, you are going to have to protect it. one way of protecting is to not selected in the first plac

this, we take very seriously any efforts by any actor including nation states, maybe especially nationstates that moves beyond the collection of information about our country and that offers the prospect of an effort to influence the conduct of affairs in our country whether that's an election or something else. i don't want to comment on the ticket there's, but those kinds of things are something we take very very seriously and work very very hard to understand so we can equip to the rest are governments with options for how to deal with it and that's all i will say about that at this point. >> former president bill clinton in jimmy carter talk about public service and policy changes since they both left the white house plus other issues including global politics at a globalization, voter turnout, supreme court in dealing with isis. this is part of the clinton global initiative meeting held in atlanta. >> now, i would like to invite one of america's all-time greats citizen servants to show me on that-- going on that platform, president jimmy carter. [applause]. [applause]. >> do you feel as

of the european states the outcome clearly shows that the national interest and consequently the nationstatein the basic motivation and basic building block of international relations and european relations and likely to remain so. thank you very much. [applause] >> thank you for these fascinating perspectives. i don't want to take a lot of time this afternoon because i'm really here to learn. congress has been in session only very briefly since brexit took place. they are coming back to work in two weeks, run for your lives. [laughter] so this will be a real opportunity. we can explore some ideas as both a historian and a practitioner of democracy, i am am acutely conscious, particularly in recent months of the challenges the democracy presents but at the same time, it has been wonderful to see a very positive example of democracy in action and what we very much want to explore on the hill is the opportunity that this presents to us and as ian was talking about the gordian knot, i was was thinking at that moment from when young alexander the great was confronted with the knot. his genius id

[video clip] >> we take very seriously any effort by any act or, including nationstates that moves beyond collection of information about our country and that offers the prospect of an effort to influence the conduct of affairs in our country, whether that is an election or something else. aree kinds of things something we take very, very seriously and work very hard to uiperstand so we can eq the rest of our government to deal with it. host: can you speculate what he means? guest: that seems to be a strong confirmation of everything i was saying. they are looking at this, the instances a possible of just what the director said. you have foreign governments le inng to metal -- medd our elections. this is not a partisan issue. this is something that should be of concern where you are on the spectrum. you were talking about the two states, well put someone clean from those -- glean from those databases? guest: that's what makes this puzzling. on its face, this does not take you directly to tampering with election results. we can discuss the vulnerabilities there. these were what a registrat

those nationstates that still exist. president all cc in egypt, the king of saudi arabia.i have 30 seconds left. you know this indian side. what is hillary clinton's anti-isis policy? >> is to do more of the same. there is no comprehensive policy, no comprehensive strategy. she sent this on the path that it's on right now in libya which is a complete disaster. people forget about yemen. that's a failed state in all the other actions in sera and iraq as well as the terrible refugee problem we know infiltrating inside out to include into our own country. you will see more of the same on her side. stuart: thanks for joining us. much appreciated. "the wall street journal" reports new york city police mayor bill bratton will announce he's resigning. ashley: a number of high-profile incidents. it takes that fixing scandal, a federal investigation into taking and bratton himself has been criticized to pay for his membership in the harvard club. also reports of confrontation and a police officer refusing to apologize. put this all together. he has been under pressure. now there's

he said there should be no nationstates. they should be one worker's paradise.to ask the president what to think the bulls thought about borders in the 239 when hitler invaded? what do you think you printed out when putin invaded in two crimea recently. borders is the national security. security begins for securing your borders. this man i think has to wind the tone politician of the decade award. >> is trying to resurrect the united europe at the two world wars were centered in europe. that's what he's trying to do. he's trying to put the clock back. it's like saying retreat because it's not going to happen. >> if you look at the original founders of the european community, if you look at monday, adenauer, if you look at churchill who first used the phrase after world war ii, these individuals were they melt everything into some kind of morass. they were saying that nations come together as a community. this man has gone beyond that there's somebody from luxembourg sitting in brussels knows better for a bridge or frenchman what it means to have an identity. tha