because nato doesn't have a big. mission in moscow it's got one military liaison officer at the moment and a nato information officer whose post remains vacant at the moment the rest are local staff i'm told so if moscow expects to have have any sort of dramatic expulsion activity it won't be against nato it will more likely be against these governments that have taken their own actions teri schultz at nato headquarters in brussels thank you. just take a look at some of the other stories making news around the world facebook boss mark zuckerberg has turned down a request to appear in front of the british parliamentary committee lawmakers want to question him over how millions of users details got into the hands of the london based political consultants a cambridge analytical you're going to say she has been accused of harvesting facebook data and using it to influence a twenty sixteen u.s. election. in france two people have been charged with the murder of an elderly french jewish holocaust survivor eighty five year

because nato doesn't have a big. mission in moscow it's got one military liaison officer at the moment and a nato information officer whose post remains vacant at the moment the rest are local staff i'm told so if moscow expects to have have any sort of dramatic expulsion activity it won't be against nato it will more likely be against these governments that have taken their own actions teri schultz of nato headquarters in brussels thank you so how is this nato action likely to be viewed in the kremlin consulted fun i got just an analyst in the russian capital welcome constantly if moscow is likely to react to this latest move from nato. well i think that traditionally moscow reacts in a reciprocal way so we can expect expulsions and we can expect the closure of. of one of the remaining three u.s. consulates in in russia but as terry correctly said with regard to nato will be quite difficult to reciprocate because the both naif information office and nato military liaison mission are running on especially skeleton st

nato to nato territory inside nato headquarters it does sound surprising now now that i think about it so what this will do is is further restrict the number of people who can work there after the annexation of crimea in twenty fourteen nato told russia it had to downsize this mission from fifty people to thirty people so that was a pretty big cut now today they've told them they need to reduce it even further from thirty people to a maximum of twenty people so that means much fewer people working here and in fact already only the nato ambassador post which is they can at the moment the deputy ambassador and to support staff or even allowed to walk around an escorted and that was a big change after crimea because before then the russian diplomats could mingle with everybody else in the cafeteria in the hallways wherever they wanted to be now it's on a on a very tight leash even including the the communications people when they want to meet with with journalists they need to be escorted to see us in the press area so . there was no change in those rules today it would be hard to rest

together with nato, the u.s. has made significant progress, but we have much work to do as we execute our national defense strategy, fielding an increasingly lethalal, agile, -- lethal agile, and resilient , joint force in long-term strategic competition with russia and ready to counterviolent extremist organizations. russia's carrying out a campaign of destabilization to change the international order, fracture nato, and undermine u.s. leadership around the world. at sea, on land, and in the air, russia's increasingly modernized military is operating at levels not seen since the cold war. at the same time, russia is using indirect activities to advance its strategic objectives. throughout europe, along its periphery, in the middle east and beyond, russia has demonstrated a willingness and capability to use political provocation, spread disinformation, and to undermine democratic institutions. in response to the challenge posed by russia's pursuit of power, u.s. has increased its posture in europe to include an a

nato secretary general there u.n. stoltenberg announcing nato has response to what britain says was russia's involvement in a poisoning in britain let's go straight over to russia's rather to our brussels headquarters of brussels nato headquarters where our correspondent teri schultz is standing by for us terry tell us more about what u.n. stoltenberg had to say in this announcement today. hi terry what secretary-general stolzenberg said is that seven diplomats in the russian mission to nato will be kicked out of the country that means their accreditation will be withdrawn and belgium will be asked to withdraw their right to live here three other people will have their accreditation procedures suspended which means they will not be coming to nato to join the russian mission the other thing they did was downsize the russian embassy here at nato the russian mission by ten people to a maximum of twenty this is something that's been done before after the annexation of crimea nato also kicked out a number of russian diplom

i was ambassador to nato. we never made a commitment that we would not expand nato into eastern europe. we made a commitment that we would not station nuclear weapons on the territory of the former warsaw pact states. and we have kept that commitment. - [brzezinski] to say that we should freeze nato enlargement, would be another way to reward putin. to legitimize his polices. your basic meaning there would be a line of division. you will have countries who are not allowed to pursue their national interests because of russian dominion. - we urge russia to cease its destabilizing activities in ukraine and elsewhere. - [narrator] using sanctions on russia, some argue, would further integrate russia into the global economy. - our european friends understand that the more that we actually do economic business with russia that the more likely we are to have peaceful interactions that will make things better rather than make things worse. and they will not see that as a sign of weakness. - i think it's nonsense. hone

general scaparrotti: trying to undermine and splinter nato. i'm confident of nato. i have seen the discussions. and i think in something that an attack.is i have seen them come together in things less than this that was perhaps divisive at the time that they could reach a conclusion. mr. coffman: let me express to you that i don't share the confidence in our allies because of the -- there was an aagreed on 2% growth of g.d.p. to be spent on defense. d the majority of our allies no where near that 2%. they have other priorities within their budget. but that's a real concern whether or not doing that and there is an overreliance on the united states. could you comment on that. general scaparrotti: i share your concern and i press that as well as the secretary general commander. as i stated, there will be eight that made that 2% and 15 that will plan to make it and we will continue to press that and as part of the alliance that you are contributing both in cash, contributions and capability. i agree with need to press that. if you look at nato and say since wausau and

full support for nato. in this time, we've deployed a lot of force in this past year to europe on behalf of nato. so what i'm trying to say is what i point to is what are we doing. edi, which congress has budgeted, for instance, is a substantial investment, and our allies recognize that. >> general, let's talk about for a second. the edi -- and i've witnessed this in eastern europe myself -- seems to be very heavily focused on conventional forces, which is not the way that russia's attacking us. russia is attacking our eastern european allies through the internet, through partisans, but undermining their political process, by sowing disinformation, as you earlier described. it doesn't seem like our effort is calibrated to really meet that threat at all. it certainly wasn't when i visited there in 2015. i know that we on the committee have tried to make some modifications. i'm not sure we've gone far enough. what could we do to improve our ability to stand up to the type of warfare that russia is actually ex

but why did it they leave them in nato? these are not words of a ideal but a ruthless pragmatist not uniquely routeless interestingly he supported the crimea and occupation of -- georgia so wise again in 1998, and 94 we have signed up to protect the series of countries even though we have neither resources nor the intention to do so in any serious way. so coming back to the marshal plan to wrap up, i believe this is historical lessons to this. we with remember the marshal plan because it was visionary. because it stirred people's imagination but it was also hard headed and it succeeded because it was hard headed. if we had defined success to include, for example, bringing czechoslovakia into the marshal plan we would have failed why? because we would have had to go to war with the soviet union to do that. american public would never have supported it and therefore what we talk today about -- about today is the greatest success in american foreign policy with probably have been one of its greatsest debacles. great acts of st

treaty but there's obviously a more to it than that i mean there is also the nato expansion right to russia's borders and there is essentially now but the constant belligerent anti russian rhetoric now emanating from the western capitals and when you build up arms on russia's borders. and you start actually shooting at russians in syria and when you combine that with the russian hysteria in in washington in london in other capitals then you've got a very serious situation and i think you're absolutely right peter when you said that putin is not one to rhetorical flourish he's not want to exaggerate to bloviate he's not donald trump so he has a very serious person and i think he was putting down a marker and say stop this now before it gets out of control because we mean business exactly if you carry on like this it is going to end badly you know mary the over the years when they were before the negotiations with the iran nuclear deal the pentagon constantly was telling russia that all these in these anti-missile defense systems in poland and remain were many they have nothing to do w

treaty but there's obviously a more to it than that i mean there is also the nato expansion right to russia's borders and there is a you know the essentially now with the constant belligerent anti russian rhetoric now emanating from the western capitals and when you build up arms on russia's borders and you start actually shooting at russians in syria and when you combine that with the russian hysteria. in in washington in london in other capitals then you've got a very serious situation and i think you're absolutely right peter when you said that putin is not one to rhetorical flourishes he's not want to exaggerate to bloviate he's not donald trump so he has a very serious person and i think he was putting down a marker and say stop this now before it gets out of control because we mean business exactly if you carry on like this it is going to end badly you know mary the over the years when they were before the negotiations with the iran nuclear deal the pentagon constantly was telling russia that all these in these anti-missile defense systems in poland and remain were many they ha

that it was sending home seven russian diplomats and deny denying accreditation to three more with nato joining the expulsions of russian diplomats the alliances secretary general said moscow had it coming. it sounds a clear message to russia that there are costs and consequences for it's unacceptable and dangerous pattern of behavior the u.k. welcomes the solidarity right russia enough is enough russia denies having anything to do with the poisoning and insists the u.s. is coercing other states to join its lead. what diploma this or that country tells one or two diplomats to leave well whispering apologies into our ears we know that this is the result of colossal pressure colossal blackmail which is now unfortunately the main tool of washington on the international arena the oceans the numbers a little bit. and on the streets of moscow people also expressed belief their country is being victimized i made it possible to make the americans are against us and they're trying to crush us so that our country won't develop and won't become even stronger. apparently we don't have enough influe

its kurdish militia partners head to the north of the country to repel an incursion by washington's nato ally turkey. big day on the calendar one hundred days to kick off party's top world cup team guides you through some of the host cities making final preparations for russia twenty eight. new staff are coming up my name is kevin zero in function watching r t international first than two people remain critically ill in hospital in the united kingdom tonight after being exposed to an identified substance they are a former russian colonel who'd been convicted of spying for britain along with his daughter as well surrogate script used to serve in the russian military's intelligence service back in two thousand and six this is the twist he passed the identities of russian secret agents in europe to the u.k. now in russia he was subsequently caught and sentenced to thirteen years in prison but another twist in twenty ten he was released as part of a high profile spy swap with the u.s. and then flown to britain he set up home in salzburg. cvs the russian embassy in the u.k. is contacted the b

well nato a. spokesperson from nato basically told us that they don't comment on domestic affairs within member states surely the rex tillerson was also someone here who sent an important message at that time when trump question article five when he said that the institution is still and remains important at the that the united states would not forget it stuti to defend any member country of nato and in case of a foreign attack that was important message the key problem here really was for the e.u. as well as for nato the feeling of uncertainty if he really represents what the u.s. administration things and that is why some people here have already said maybe. and that's a big maybe his successor will bring more clarity into the affair sint and will make a potentially a more coherent approach of the white house when it comes to its foreign policy regarding the u.n. nato and they would get a brief answer georg one of the big fault lines between the u.n. the u.s. was iran might pump is likely to be

four hundred does not integrate with current nato systems the s four hundred would give turkey a new level of control though over its airspace and beyond it's a surface to air on to your craft missile system on counting gauge up to eighty targets out of telling distances of four hundred kilometers it can also hit fast moving targets travelling at speeds of almost five kilometers per second well international relations professor hussein by cheap to listen to and needs russian weapons more than it requires western support. we live very interesting crisis between turkey and the united states of america in by literal terms as well as in native terms invited through terms i think the turkish position to process four hundred is. from the turkish defense policy point of view russia seems to be one of the possible partners for future despite the fact that this type of missile system is not applicable to the nato structure but since one thousand nine hundred one first gulf war turkey is always in need for this type of new structures nato does not provide. a lot sorry stories are lacking this

nato has grown germany's for. sponsibility doesn't stop at its national borders anymore defending the country has reached completely new dimensions. this is his classic slam this is for this is defending your country and your allies as a boy i grew up in northern bavaria and i remember american tanks on the czech border when from when i lived in a village five hundred meters away all the talk then was just about national defense doesn't lands for tyrone gets in recent years we've got to understand that defending the country is more about defending the alliance and the frontline state is a different country in as it were there for the whole alliance that was always the case of course but it was forgotten this is focused on. process is logistics maneuvers they all have to work all over the world and often in parallel the bundeswehr doesn't have much time to adapt to the requirements for years it had budget restraints for personnel and military hardware but more and more foreign missions were added now it's the opera

incident i think it could become a nato incident yes because i think it deserves to be a nato incident less of a strike against some of his including myself in the united kingdom is how quickly germany and other european union countries latvia lithuania estonia but also from this came out to support and the european parliament came out to support this may very well in the end to say that the blame for this ultimately rests with russia the response from the white house was not immediate and was very any make and by no means a straw man that's a problem for mrs may british people have voted to get out of the european union and they voted that call to get closer to america. you know that's that's a very good point especially the day after the secretary of state was fired by the u.s. president is not a good situation for the british prime minister tonight that is for sure anthony glees thank you very much we appreciate your insights tonight. well today in berlin those of us who follow politics found ourselves in gulf with a sense of deja vu competing with the feeling that this is it today

provocations to nato provocations on russia's border to us occupying thirty percent of syria illegally i can imagine that's where his weakness is if he has any weakness among russian voters people saying why are we sitting there letting them walk all over us so in that sense perhaps that is entering into his mind but otherwise i mean if that is the case how different is that than any u.s. presidential campaign where they all try to outflank each other being more much more pro-war than anyone else you know it george the a no in my in my first question to mary i mean i kind of gave the lineage there it's really quite remarkable to me that how remarkable the response has been because if you're been looking at arms control and the u.s. russia relations over the last decade or so. you know russia is basically telling the united states that your threats against our sovereignty stop now and we have the means to react in very forcefully and it's called defending your sovereignty nothing more than that go ahead george though this is exactly right and that's why he. brought up the issue of the u

we're not in nato we're in the e.u. we're not in the e.u. who is russia to tell them how they should behave. the deployment of the missile defense system was no longer negotiable that's what obama told putin the press conference was frigid. it was good. to know that. he also discussed international that all interested parties in trying to find a resolution to this problem. from obama's point of view how important was putin the leader of a country with a gross domestic product that barely matched that of spain. the meeting ended on a no to deep discord. they did not concede that russia the equal partner goot norbit good but equal then to the old behavior was a clear time who for the feeling of superiority and kind of fear and all. what you language to show is your own with like me so if i did not feel that there was a good personal relationship between president obama and vladimir putin that for some reason that relationship was strained and the result was that i think in part it contributed to a breakdown in the relatio

or are they saying that or is it nature saying that they're saying in nato nato does not you know. you know nato device europe the same we need to devise the security my my six ample i'm going to start we have this organization of collective security treaty was unique competence on afghanistan of these countries like russia. and many others they have repeated the previous years we have repeatedly proposed to nato to have better dialogue and cooperation we're not going to start the answer was always no and you know why we know why because in nato they've taken a decision it's not public but you know it it is taken not to have any dialogue in any cooperation with any integration. body in the post or your area because by then you would somehow legitimize their existence and you lose a punitive so here is tremendously bad situation in afghanistan put the reason nato does not want to have cooperation are not going to stand results and will threaten by the by drugs by terrorism and all that stuff so i don't like to see nato existing at all and i don't like to see nato enlarging this is i

and we've seen it since ukraine with the strengthening of the nato presence in the border states in the in the baltic states in poland where it said that this needs to happen as a reassuring defensive all nato is part because of what they see as the increased threat from russia and then of course you go to moscow and russia says well we've got all this sort of advance present suddenly in the new countries of nato and we have to defend ourselves against that at which point nato starts talking about you remember the big or maybe not quite so big russian military exercise last summer which was completely hyped by nato spokesman and western ministers which turned out to have been a fraction oh they were too and of course mary these things these exercises are player now and stay in advance they were made public observers are allowed to come again this hype here i mean also daniel you know what i'm also on top of it here you have lethal weapons being sold to the ukrainians if you look at the the pentagon's nuclear posture review it discusses the possibility of a first strike this is throw

and we've seen it since ukraine with the strengthening of the nato presence in the border states in the in the baltic states in poland where it said that this needs to happen as a reassuring defensive all nato is part because of what they see as the increased threat from russia and then of course you go to moscow and russia says well we've got all this sort of advance presence suddenly in the new countries of nato and we have to defend ourselves against that at which point nato starts talking about you remember the big or maybe not quite so big russian military exercise last summer which was completely hyped by nato spokesman and western ministers which turned out to have been a fraction oh they were too and of course mary these things these exercises are player now and still in advance they were made public observers are allowed to come again this hype here i mean also daniel you know what also on top of it here you have lethal weapons being sold to the ukrainians if you look at the the pentagon's nuclear posture review it discusses the possibility of a first strike this is throwin

the united states, and most of our european nato allies, believe that nato should be alliance of democracies, and turkey isn't in any meaningful sense, a democracy. - turkey is not a reliable u.s. ally, that does not mean they are not a strategically vital u.s. allly. but, their interests are conflicting to a point now, where it's become bloody. it is incumbent on us to stop turning a blind eye to that. until it becomes too late, because too late is coming up very soon. (crowd shouting) - [narrator] the u.s. reluctance to immediately extradite gulen to turkey for what erdogan says was his role in the 2016 coup, has hurt relations. (speaks turkish) - [translator] the u.s. and turkey have been allies for many years, and our wold views are the same. both countries are very eager to operate on common interests. this relationship, of course, cannot be broken by the different attitudes of some administrators. but what we expect from the american government, is at least to bring a terrorist, like fethullah gulen, before a court to face justice. - the united states should only extradite fethullah gu

you invited nato member states to afghanistan immediately so how about in syria if the nato countries who are in syria really have the power they would openly in clearly stand against us but they don't dare because they can see that turkey is standing tall but what we wanted was this you called us to afghanistan we came you called us to somalia we came you called us to the balkans we came so now i'm calling on them so come to syria turkey with its nine hundred eleven kilometers of border with syria is under threat right now so why aren't you coming. britain is holding a second meeting of its national emergency committee in response to the poisoning of a russian spy with a nerve agent ministers arrived a few hours ago for the meeting chaired by the home secretary and a rod in salzburg investigators focusing their attention on the victim's house and the cemetery where his wife and son are buried x. agent and his daughter remain in a critical condition so i'm going to go is live outside the cabinet office and what he says sonia some big issues for them to discuss. absolutely and it's not

i didn't care until they needed them in the nato. these are not the words of an audio blo blog figure of a pragmatist. gorbachev supported the annexation and occupation of georgia. they've signed up to protect countries even though we have neither the resources or intention to do so in any serious way so coming back to the plan we remember it today because it was visionary and disturbed people's imaginations but it was alsot hardheaded we would have failed because we would have to go to war and to dond that about today as the greatest success we will have been one of its greatest debacles. thank you very much. [applause] c-span is here so it is important to speak into the microphone's. i wonder as you brought up this issue whether it was wise to incorporate them into nato. the backlash didn't materialize until putin came to power. the former soviet union not in the countries that wanted to be admitted. the other question is what about the agencies and independent countries themselves. what place was it for the united states? >> the f

from berlin tonight telling more russian diplomats to leave and nato joins the mass expulsion of russians suspected of being sponsored. the secretary general . says that sub and the russians attached to the military alliance will be expelled it follows the expulsions of more than one hundred russian diplomats from twenty seven countries also coming up hundreds of protesters take to side streets demanding answers about the shopping mall fire amid rumors of a cover up president vladimir putin blames what he calls quote criminal negligence . it's good to have you with us tonight there is more fallout from the nerve agent poisoning of a former russian spy and his daughter in the u.k. london is accusing the russian government of masterminding the attack which has left sergei and yulia script all fighting for their lives now twenty seven countries including britain the us germany and many e.u. countries as you see right there have since said that they are expelling more than one hundred russian diplomats in response nato joined the mass expulsions today announcing that it was sending home seven

he wants to make sure that nato gets more money so that nato protect all of us and fulfill its goal what what he means is that if the e.u. countries want to be exempt from tariffs they need to pay to be nato members and this is something trump has been pushing for since his campaign days arguing that the u.s. bears the whole burden paying nato's bills saying that other countries should be paying for nato protection and security let's take a look at what trump had to say.

country you mentioned nato earlier could nato then triple trigger article five that provides for common defense. look at of course this puts and they do in a difficult situation if indeed this is a poisonous at tack on a member state you could theoretically make the argument that that is the case for mutual defense it's a case of hybrid warfare and currently nato is still in a situation where it tries to find on cers through these forms of attack it's not that a cruise missile has come from one state to another but this is a more. tastes it's. a case if indeed it is a it is an attack from the russian state the reality however is an article five scenario and a full out i'd war response from from from nato it's very unlikely of course the key problem for european states but also for nato members will now be to find you know the right punitive a measures here to hurt russia but not to hurt relations which have been souring ever since the an accession of crimea and are now in a state where slightly talks have restarted for instance in the nato russian council something that germany would li

nato has nned the list of countries getting rid of russian diplomats. nato says this sends a clear message. doest do more than that? heather: expulsions are not policy. in some waysthey are symbolic. that quite extraordinary nato headquarters, understanding russiannished the council was, there were surprising number of russian diplomats who had a mission at nato, but again, it is symbolic. but it is important. the solidarity of 26 countries and nato universally expelling russian diplomats is very powerful. but it is not a sustainable policy. it is a symbol. we have to now get to the longer-term policy implications of a destabilizing russi jane: why would this attack on -- why was this attack on british soil against two former spies the catalyst for this? ievances of russian is very long. heather: this, to me, feels a bit like the georgia conflict. russia invaded georgia in 2008. nobody did anythin in 2006, the assassination, and ther' really wasn'a significant response. the russians are always probing and seeing where our weaknesses are. in some ways, t

its kurdish militia partners head to the north of the country to repeal an incursion by washington's nato ally turkey. and ninety nine days to kickoff parties at top the world cup team guides you through some of the host cities making final preparations for russia two thousand and eighteen. are broadcasting live direct from our studios in moscow this is our international i'm sean thomas glad to have you with us. now the sixty six year old man and his daughter remain a critically ill in the hospital in the u.k. after being exposed to an unidentified substance the man is a former russian colonel who hadn't been convicted of spying for britain and sergei screwball used to serve in the russian military intelligence service in two thousand and six he passed the identities of russian secret agents in europe to the u.k. who subsequently only caught and sentenced to thirteen years in prison but in two thousand and ten he was released as part of a high profile spy swap with the u.s. and flown to britain. and the russian embassy in the u.k. has contacted the british foreign office requesting more i

nato today said that this is the our first offensive use of a nerve agent on a nato member since one thousand nine hundred forty nine we didn't hear anything. to that extent today from theresa may do you think the situation has the potential to become a nato incident. i think it could become a nato incident yes because i think it deserves to be a nato incident less of a strike against some of those including myself in the united kingdom is how quickly germany and other european union countries latvia lithuania estonia but also fronts came out to support and the european parliament came out to support its may very normally and to say that the blame for this ultimately rests with russia the response from the white house was not to meet it and was very any meek and by no means a straw man that's a problem for mrs may british people have voted to get out of the european union and they voted at all to get closer to america. let out you know that's that's a very good point especially the day after the secretary of state was fired by the u.s. president's not a good situation for the british

package of sanctions against russia on the nato side i didn't means dismiss a situation of collective defense she has a yourself to seize the full use of force by russia against britain this is a case of self-defense under article fifty one of the un charter which could be the prelude to also invoke nato as collective defense grills article five it doesn't mean there's going to be not to let it military response but it means is a clear statement not on your story verity but of readiness to act the question and the bottom line is if we don't act what is going to prevent russia from doing that again in the future you know if you can give me a short answer if you would just on the e.u. for a moment how united will the response be given that some of the states in the in the east of the former soviet bloc countries who are naturally a wary of the big neighbor neighbor to the east well yes i think the reality show will be coming out of the west or member states mostly it's only germany and france whether they will be willing to basically negotiate a new package of sanctions products ikey i