move the nato and other international organizations don't recognize but ukraine is not a member of nato and so nato says quite often that you know we only offer territorial article five guarantees to members but ukraine is a strong partner of nato it's also on the path to membership and nato has been protecting ukraine and helping ukraine improve its armed forces there are joint trainings with ukraine some that happened just not long ago nato vessels including by nato allies themselves cruise around ukraine in the black sea so i think nato would say that it offers a lot of security to ukraine no guarantees but a lot of security and i know that there have been discussions about stepping that up but at the moment it doesn't look like there will be any strong measures taken militarily at this time ok terry's not only russia's new ballistic missile you also mentioned china's how concerned is nato that we are now entering a new international arms race. well it depends on who you speak to nato there are twenty nine members one of them being the united states of course which has the nuclear um

issue is a problem between russia nato and nato at the moment and i'm sure that people for instance like this excellent american ambassador cobol career is doing his very best to have people talk to each other now mr suffered that i asked you a couple of questions as a communications professional but let me also ask you a question as a strategy is because this is ultimately what you do this point of time when the you were working for nato war your colleagues planning preparing in any way for the course of events that we saw develop in ukraine did they foresee that as eventuality and did they take any measures to prepare for it well there's all sorts of contingency planning and scenario planning in many different directions and i assume that people you know strategists think about all sorts of eventualities but all i can say at the moment is that i regret that in the aftermath of the georgia situation of the aftermath of the then later on what's happened in crane that there is not more open channels of discussion at the same time it's fair to say that you know the usual diplomatic re

of the nato of the nato alliance which says basically of a. it's a common common defense organization so no i don't think that but i do think that it is a pity that for instance in certain areas there isn't more cause collaboration today between nato and countries outside including including with russia and i say you had a very brilliant ambassador the time who was excellent russian ambassador dimitri hour ago isn't there was a very good american ambassador volker and i think you know we need more of this collaboration rather less of it while it's good to see you say that because both me to regards and volcker are still to some extent involved in the in the russian politics or in the case of mr volcker in to in directly in the ukraine speaking of which there are many people in russia who believe that at this current stage where there is almost no relationship between russia and nato very limited i mean very limited relationship. many russians believe that it is the ukrainians who are sort of holding nato hostage and preventing it from developi

very few allied nato -- nato vessels can go in there and operate. would be a wise move? that is debatable. given that it's a theoretical possibility i think the focus should be on beefing up nato presence in the black sea. not letting it become an uncontested russian lake. showing the russians that if they are worried about encroachment of nato towards their frontiers, that they are actually triggering this rather than preventing it through their aggressive behavior. that may not be enough but it would be at least a step to show more backbone than it's been showing in the last few months. >> the leading candidate to replace the chancellor has suggested the eu and united states ban russian ships until the situation is resolved. what do you think? >> i will take a look at any reasonable proposal. banning rushing shipping could -- it is important for sanctions to think of the collateral damage. whether the balance of pain is going to be the way you wanted to be. that is when i would take a look at. and if any german politician is calling for more sanctions, i want to listen

the cold war days as members of nato it is been nato advancing towards russia. former president i think ronald reagan said. keep off our backyard and that was a conflict when soviet union wanted rockets on cuba you know south america this is our backyard people well nato has came very close to russia's backyard and i think they should not have done that but don't you see a contradiction here on the one had to say that the major should be mindful off not pressing too hard into russia's backyard but on the other hand you want nature to become stronger and americans to keep their presence in not only presence but dominance and military dominance on this continent though as i don't think i think still that this logic. because. do not like that nato has taken all the members are has been part of it but i could see it if i see it from the russian point so you that they're there if the adversary or the enemy adversary in nato is coming closer and closer. i got understand that i don't like it. you have the conflict over the ukraine resizes see yes posco this. happening

. 59% favorable towards nato, 24% unfavorable and even a majority of those with a favorable view of natothink our allies should do more. thank you. i didn't ask for this. the audience can see them. what is your gut reaction to the survey suggesting numbers need to do more? >> i agree with the survey. that is always the case. you always want your partner to do more. >> you see the uk hoping to spend on defense above inflation every single year, increasing proportion of gdp we are spending on defense and as was touched on by john earlier, every nation in nato is increasing the amount, whether it is at the pace people want to see, some people argue this isn't speedy but the direction of travel is heading the right way but it is not just about pounds, shillings and pennies. it is how you use and develop those capabilities and how you come together to use those capabilities to deal with a common threat. to present is an important powerful political tool. it is not just about percentages. it is about what you are spending that money on and how you use those capabilities going forward and peopl

i don't think nato will become obsolete nato needs to find a different mission my problem with this idea of independent european military force i do think europe should become and seize this opportunity of the trump era to become more independent from america it saddens me though that it's in the context of militarization well it all comes down to that with it shouldn't because this is a world where the real challenges of our time are not going to be met by military force but i do think that europe should find its own way on a whole set of issues i mean not just a military force but it maybe it can maintain relations with iran which it should well russia and the e.u. stand together on the issue of iran do you think this could have far reaching consequences this realignment of russia and e.u. for america i do and i think the realignment of relations between russia and china will have major implications i think there's a realignment in the world generally that is not fully understood we're living through history and america as i said is no longer the sole superpower and i think part o

so what's nato likely to do for the outlook this morning let's go to w.'s teri schultz in brussels good morning terry what can we expect today at this nato meeting will the u.s. delay pulling out of the r n f the intermediate range nuclear forces treaty yes i've heard from several sources both inside and outside nato that less meant last minute discussions with european leaders at the g. twenty convince president trump that waiting a couple more months until the february defense minister ariel wouldn't be so bad it would give more time to put pressure on russia it would ease european allies concerns that not everything had been done diplomatically to try to bring russia back into compliance with the treaty before a six month period starts after which the treaty is defunct ok now president trump was tweeting yesterday that he wants new arms control talks with russia and with china what do native foreign ministers think about this approach well i'm sure that will come under discussion today when the meeting kicks off in a few hours but this in fact was one o

and nato's reaction? >> gen. breedlove: i think you mentioned the treaty in 2003, there is several treaties that russia abrogated when it comes to ukraine. they were a signatory to protecting the sovereign boundaries of ukraine. and they changes those sovereign boundaries by force. i think that you have it exactly right. the harassment of the merchants and certainly the military actions taken more recently have abrogated the agreement of 2003, so i don't think there's much to discuss there, it's pretty straightforward. the question you pose is a very good one. i take a tiny offense and i said it to my good friend twice. i take a tiny offense how people categorize this that this is the first time russians have taken this overt action against ukranian soldiers. i think that happened immediately in crimea. we knew who the little green men were. they denied it and denied it and until putin said oh, yeah they are ours but they're all there on vacation so it's okay. this is not the first time russian soldier, sailors,

meanwhile he's said he's in favor of nato but nato has to spend more money on the fence. and as you know. we are interested in good relations between the united states and as well nevertheless. united states is a democratic country. they have. legal system which works and therefore a lot of similarities between united states and the europeans and the parsed united states is very close. therefore i do hope. we will. be very weak still for a close relationship because what you have to know. there are members european members who would not be happy just being dependent on the europeans alone they want to have the americans in europe that's true for example for the baltic countries it's true for poland and. yeah ok i mean i don't think i don't think anyone i don't think anyone is talking about cutting the ties between europe and america completely but it's you know light of the recent events at people are saying maybe it's time for europe to be more independent and not completely dependent on their economic or political decisions when it comes to the president a white house m

a majority of americans are favorable towards nato. this is a 59% favorable towards nato, with a 24% unfavorable, and more interesting to me, even a majority of those with a favorable view of nato think that our allies should do more. and it goes down, i think -- yeah. thank you. didn't even ask for the slides, and they're there, so the audience can see them. but what's your kind of gut reaction to the survey that suggests that members still need to do more at nato? mr. rood: i agree with the survey. no, i think -- rep. smith: let me just say, by the way, that's always the case. you would always like your partners to do more. i don't think that's ever going to change and you are doing more. min. williamson: and in fairness, you see the u.k., we're upping the spending on defense above inflation every single year. we're sort of increasing the proportion of gdp that we have been spending on defense. nd as was touched upon by john searlier, you know, every nation in nato is increasing the amount. now, as to whether it's at the pace that pe

news live from berlin nato urges moscow to comply with a key cold war arms treaty the alliance says a new russian cruise missile violates an agreement that has guaranteed europe security for more than thirty years as nato foreign ministers discuss the issue in brussels fears grow of a new international arms race also coming up. how climate change is affecting reindeer in norway and threatening the way people live in the north of that country for centuries. and overcoming the odds we meet the nigerian taxi driver with no legs who's worked out his own way of getting through the notorious city traffic in lagos. and in venice like a football nuremberg and leverkusen live a gruesome draw any west and wild encounter a trouble downpour made conditions almost unplayable as german football persisted with its unpopular monday experiment. i'm brian thomas great to have you with us nato says russia is running out of time to comply with an arms treaty that bans certain types of nuclear armed missiles the u.s. has threatened to pull out of the one nine hundred eighty seven i.n.f. treaty because mos

ukraine is not a member of nato. there is something in there which is the kremlin is sensitive to cost. it is ambitious. it's annoying, difficult, but it is rational. there is a deterrence topic can be economic, political and possibly military for ukraine that will be given dealing with russia. >> that's a great point. >> richard kramer from foreign policy institute. we have a number of experts and seasoned diplomats here so i ask you to take off your ukrainian russian hot and put on something more broad, mortgage european. pew released a poll last week 69% german poles believe they should have stronger relationship and cooperation with russia versus the united states at 43%. a lot of a lot of are conversation-based focus on the importance of nato talking about sanctions and retaliatory measures the importance germany has in the alliance in a long-term strategy in order to deter continued russian aggression. what counsel would you get to the administration, the national or what have you about what needs to happen bec

that does not involve american troops or nato troops. two if you look at the crisis happening right now, happen on november 25? the first thing to understand is that moscow began a new part of its campaign against ukraine in april when it began to inspect ships coming to and from the ukraine imports. it's remains an important economic area for ukraine. as a result of the inspections the delays in shipping imports an expert from ukraine imports have dropped according to statistics that are readily available 50% according to some firms dealing heavily they told me last week, 66%. either way that's a major hit to ukraine's economy but also for those of you who remember moscow blames whose economic livelihood is threatened by moscow's heavy-handed in moscow. impartial terms a greater number of russians and russian speakers. barely we know it's a cynical game. now what happened on november 25 it was part of russia's tightening of the clamp on dunbar. to come in september hugh crane spent -- sent naval ships through the kerch strait into the s

nato supports ukraine but ukraine is not a member so nato has no true article five responsibility to protect ukraine's territorial sovereignty at the same time there are many nato worship's patrolling through the black sea and nato says this should be enough reinforcement for russia's you know it can't mess with ukraine any further than an axiom crimea of course in two thousand and fourteen at the same time ukraine is bound to be disappointed we just heard nato secretary general stoltenberg say that no new military measures are planned all the eliz are doing at this point is saying russia must release the ukrainian soldiers it must allow free passes through the sea and that its defense ukraine morally but there are going to be any new military measures at this point so kiev is bound to be hoping for more our reporting from brussels from the nato summit there thank you so very much. all right that's a bit you know on some of the other stories making news around the world a delegation from yemen is with the rebels is on its way to sweden for u.n. brokered peace talks there traveling wi

now it is bigger than nato. it is nations outside of nato, indonesia, malaysia, and others.so we should have assembled that publicly bringry talk the military option right now, rather than waiting months and allowing the situation to diffuse. i think, more than anything, when you ask what we should have done, maybe it is some of the things we eventually did with radars and all these other things, but we should have done it right now. delay hurt our response. i think we should look at what we're doing now and determine, will the delay dilute the response, whatever it is when there is one? afternoon. ambassador, general, these questions have elements both military and diplomatic. sanctions in the kurdish straight against ukrainian vessels, not just military vessels, but for months and months impeding merchant vessels. has russia effectively actually torn up the bilateral treaty of 2003, and if ukraine wants to invite nato vessels into the ports, does it have the right to do so? second question is that last week ukraine was cautioned to show restraint, not to overreact , and th

well yes stoltenberg the nato secretary general says that nato already has a very strong presence in the black c.n.n. has done for several years particularly everson stoltenberg said that russia legally an excuse crane back in twenty fourteen he said is a presence both in the sea and in the air he also talked about the fact that many nato members actually border that area and they also have they have police patrols and patrolling in that region so he seemed to indicate that there was no intention on behalf of the alliance to bolster that presence in the black sea area despite the ukrainian foreign ministers declaration that perhaps nato would be willing to do this for now stoltenberg said there is a nato presence in the area will continue to monitor the situation and then we will see what needs to happen next ok thank you for all those up don't talk about missiles ukrainian president petro poroshenko has also been meeting with relatives of those sailors who were captured a man held by russia andrew symonds has more on that here. it's now nine days since this crisis started and we're

news live from berlin nato urges moscow to comply with the key cold war arms treaty the alliance says a new russian cruise missile fire leaves an agreement that has guaranteed europe security for more than thirty years as they do a foreign ministers discuss the issue in brussels fears grow of a new international arms race is also coming up. president trump is his final respects to the late president george h.w. bush as he flies from state in washington to look at the complicated legacy of the former leader. and how climate change is affecting reindeer in norway and threatening the way the people of the north have lived for centuries. and it's one of thailand's most popular sports kickboxing also gives poor children a shot at a better life but doctors are warning that young people are paying too high a price we visit a gym to see how dangerous the sport is for children. and. i'm brian thomas thanks so much for being with us. nato says russia is running out of time to comply with an arms treaty that bans certain types of nuclear missiles the us has threatened to pull out of the one nine

so we've got nato standing together with the u.s. accusing russia of breaching the treaty is that an important step or is that a dangerous step phase most of all an important step because it kind of really unites the alliance behind the idea that russia is breaching the treaty that has been language in several nato documents now it has been a very clear relational that it has not been deregulation only of the u.s. which if you remember has been the case some weeks ago when the u.s. president said ok he basically wants to be out of the treaty now he gets the support of all the how does which is a very important signal also to his russia which is that the you know the neighbors to united for this how important is this i.n.f. treaty from the cold war is it still important for today's security challenges and see if the treaty would be obeyed by all parties it would be still important because we're talking about weapons that can kill loads of people and that still can steer up insecurity and uncertainty so if it would still be obeyed by t

of nato takes a look at what is worrying the rest of europe. we like to think of europe as peaceful conflict less a place where differences a result in a civilized way but this place is different. with this vote today a new era starts for our country. from this moment if we have the course got the talk. europe has its darker aspects ethnic strife religious divides contested borders kosovo is all of that it is permanently on the brink of a new war it just needs a spock the self-proclaimed government there wants to appear strong escalate cashing in on ratings voters just love a good military parade where the cost of zero is the right place for that you decide. to go to. the local. the parliament of the republic. serbia which is sworn to protect ethnic serbs who live in kosovo is afraid very afraid that this new army will eventually be used to target its brethren ethnic cleansing belgrade says that this could only mean one thing kossovo doesn't want peace everything the president doesn't evidently does it all with the support of the us and britain

now, it is bigger than nato. it is nations outside of nato. indonesia and others.and so we should have assembled that coalition to very publicly bring sanctions and pressures and talk the military option right now rather than waiting months and allowing this situation to diffuse. and so, i think more than anything, when you asked me what we should have done -- maybe it is some of the things we should have done which it counter mortar radars and some of those things but we should have done it right now. the delay hurts our response. i think we should look at what we are doing now about this instance and determine will the response,te the whatever it is when there is one. good afternoon. ambassador, general. these questions have elements of both military and diplomatic. straight in the kurt strait -- forh months and months in pd numeral and vessels -- has russia effectively torn up the bilateral treaty of 2003? and if therefore, ukraine wants to invite nato vessels into the ports, does it have the right to do so? the second question is that last week, ukraine was cau

well what we've seen over the past day or so here at nato headquarters in brussels is a nato foreign ministers sending a very strong message indeed to russia that some of their actions can simply not to be tolerated we're talking about nato condemning a cold war treating the i.n.f. treaty nine hundred eighty seven treaty with the united states nato saying that small sco has been in violation of that treating then joining me here at nato headquarters to talk about more faces the estonian foreign minister makes a thank you very much for joining us klaus q first of all about nato has called them nation of russia of the i.n.f. treaty is a treaty that is designed to curb medium range missiles in europe it's seen as a pillar of european security the us though has always said that they believe russia is in violation has nato been a bit late in this condemnation first of all thank you very much for having me yes indeed it has been in violation. of the treaty we've been developing systems that have been prohibited by the by the treaty and obviously if we have a naturally very very important c

troops permanently stationed in kosovo give you an idea of how serious they are on the topic of nato the alliance has long wanted to kosovo to join the process is already underway and even nato has called this move and wise. well the transition of the cause of security force is in principle and matter for kosovo to decide we have made clear this move is ill timed nato supports the development of the kosovo security force under its current mandate with a change of mandate the north atlantic council will now have to read examine the level of nato as engagement with the kosovo security force why would that be why would many nato allies be against this new army because it risks war in europe again no one in that neighborhood wants a repeat of the nine hundred ninety nine catastrophe no one wants to deal with ethnic slaughter with war crimes genocide and refugees that is no one who has anything to lose now more than ever the government of course of them must engage with minority communities and coordinate closely with nato allies and partners as it begins the ten year transition of its se

defense secretary must be big news there at nato headquarters in brussels what's the reaction from nato. well big news indeed and not welcome news at all you know when this these sort of difficult relations with the secretaries of state have happened with you know rex tillerson and and might pump a oh they don't say very flattering things about european alliances about the nato partnerships either. people have always said but at least we have mattis well now they no longer have madness and you can see from the letter how highly he prized those those ties to european allies he talks about respect for them he points out that he's been immersed in these kind of relationships for four decades contrasting himself with the president and now nato is really alarmed at who will come next and at what kind of position the u.s. will take will will mad a successor be more like president trump who comes here only talking about financing the two percent of g.d.p. military budgets so i think they are very alarmed officially nato's response is very measured spokeswoman want to linger eskew tells me that

we provide collective transatlantic defense through nato. are participating in multi-national efforts to enforce sanctions against north korea. at the u.n. command in korea, second-largest contributor after the u.s. general err ayers became the first canadian to hold the post of deputy canada. counter-isised the meeting in ottawa and we discussed the next steps to lasting defeat of daesh and its networks. remains committed to the coalition. this is evident through our operation impact and our the nato training mission in iraq. canadaland mentioned, also supports ukraine's sovereignty, integrity in the russian aggression. we have trained more than 10,000 ukrainian soldiers. we have aboutime, 8 -- over 800 forces, members deployed. and they're supporting nato deterrence, measures in eastern central europe, alongside our american allies. canada is also leading nato's battle group, similar to the u.s. presence in poland. extended thisly mission by four years. pacific region, canada is working with the u.s. and other partners on regional security

as engagement with the kosovo security force why would that be why would many nato allies be againstthis new army because it risks war in europe again no one in that neighborhood wants a repeat of the nine hundred ninety nine catastrophe no one wants to deal with ethnic slaughter with war crimes genocide and refugees and these no one who has anything to lose now more than ever the government of course of them must engage with minority communities and coordinate closely with nato allies and partners as it begins the ten year transition of its security forces the u.s. will be there with. the united states has been added for years prodding and encouraging kosovo to raise an army despite every objection and why not if they do were american weapon manufacturers might have a whole new army to outfit tension generated could guarantee an american presence in the area for decades to come and there's also jabot china and russia which support serbia and don't recognize kosovo all in all the felt safe plan sell the firewood sell the matches convince someone to spark a fire and then be there to p