the afghan war is not the test of nato. europe is. the case of pakistan, i think, we need to be realistic. without getting into it, i think that the agency's study of pakistan probably is realistic. pakistan today is what pakistan will be in 2014. it is not quite a failed state, but it is a failed government. and its attitudes on the afghan war are not ones we can change through negotiation. it will be a major problem, and the sanctuaries will remain. in terms of the whole problem of top-down engagement and the rest, the fact is, i think when we talk about military diplomacy and civil diplomacy, what i see in the u.s. and pakistani teams are actually very good mixes of civil and military diplomacy, but whatever you do in negotiation, you can't do more than the people you negotiate with will allow you to do. and the problem isn't that we had the wrong strategies or the wrong methods of negotiation. we will do a little better with pakistan because military to military and civil dialogue but not much. and finally, on the whole aid issue,

the afghan war is not a test of nato, europe. the case of pakistan i think we need to be realistic.without getting into a, i think that the agency's study of pakistan probably is realistic. pakistan today is what pakistan will be in 2014. it is not quite a failed state, but it is failed government. and its attitudes on the afghan war are not ones we can change through negotiation. it will be a major problem and the sanctuaries will remain. in terms of the whole problem of top down engagement and the rest, the fact is i think when we talk about military diplomacy and civil diplomacy, what i see in the u.s. and pakistani teams are actually very good mixes of civil and military diplomacy. but whatever you do in negotiation, you can't do more for the people you negotiate with will allow you to do. and the problem isn't that you have the wrong strategy for the wrong methods of negotiation. we will do a little better with pakistan because military to military and civil dialogue, but not much. and, finally, on the whole aid issue. understand that our prt structure already, during 2013, wil

. >> the council of europe is calling on nato to investigate, and demanding that more be done to prevent repeat of such incidents. >> when the council of europe has no legal authority to punish those response will for the death of migrants at sea, it does serve as a moral authority here in its capacity of conscience of europe, it can 90 to members to maintain human rights, and its report is also promoting a new debate on european refugee policy. >> as we have seen in the netherlands and france, anti- immigration sentiment is drawing voters too conservative and far right parties. >> but immigrants will remain important, demographers say, as long as europeans continue to have no -- no children or just one or two. population will continue to shrink. the problem is especially severe in germany. and that a baby girl born today in germany will have a life expectancy of 82 years. baby boys come in five years shorter at 77. in 2010, around 678,000 children were born in germany -- that is the lowest birthrate in the eu. in the same time, nearly 200,000 more people died and were born in what stati

much in common both denouncing what they see as straight jackets for france namely nato and what they see as europe's impositions palm fronds must offer the world a new under globalization alliance independent of the united states of america whether the european union treaty or participation in nato which we no longer want we've run proclaiming that we will call a popular referendum in be true matters little power no father said if you will the child of this devastating is the ology is the euro designed as a tool to force the advent of a federal and freedom showing europe say the subject of immigration is the clearest difference between the two with the far right start against it but both share a passion of her still be towards globalization blaming it for job losses. both plan to increase the minimum wage and both want to increase the power of the french state through nationalization and greater control over the quote unquote big bad banks. all other political forces today including the socialist party believe blindly on the virtues of calculus and this is the dissolution at the crux about thirty pe

europe. it's called nato. and in 1949 when it was founded and since then there's been hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars it made a lot of sense. it doesn't todwe equalize expenditures between america and our european allies, our debt situation would be much better. theirs might be a little worse. on the imf, mr. secretary, i must say that given the danger that exists for our economy if the european situation does not continue to be somewhat stable, the notion that we should try to discourage the imf from participating is hard for me to understand. but i also want -- because i think there is a misunderstanding about the extent to which we have a taxpayer exposure. i'm going to ask you in writing to give us a list of how much our contributions to the imf have cost us in budget terms over the years. but would you expound? the last time the u.s. increased our contributions to the imf, do you remember what that budgetary cost was according to the budgetary office? >> we've had 60-plus years of experience

nato. some of our allies in europe increasingly feel that our recent reset with russia tinded to ignore and in some cases undermine them. we need to lead a united coalition with european nations to tackle issues ranging from missile defense to the continued enlargement of nato. furthermore, if we are successful in forming a western hem fear energy colation that takes advantage of the shale gas revolution, we will be able to help our european allies reverse their dependence on russia energy, as well. a reenergized coalition can help empower those forces within russia and open their political system and if that happens, then we will be closer than ever to the bipartisan american vision endorsed by both the clinton administration and the bush administrations of a europe whole and free. are faced with historic deficits and dangerous national debt, there's been increasing talk of reducing our foreign aid budget. but we need to remember that these international coalitions that we have the opportunity to lead are not just military ones. they can also be humanitarian ones. and every region of the w

europe the general was keen to state that it has long been russia's position that the pursuit of a missile defense shield against these possible threats should be pursued together with russia u.s. nato plans to put that missile shield in eastern europe without russian involvement would result in responses both diplomatic and military because of the undermining of of russia's nuclear capability that full interview will be played tomorrow on r.t. and you can watch it here throughout the day. party dot com has all the updates on analysis on iran's nuclear program so you can get the full picture of there also online now a very different kind of fashion victim there is fury over these new t. shirts which have gone on sale jewish groups say they are disturbingly similar to the clothes which the nazis forced prisoners to wear during the holocaust. taller or terrorist find out why u.s. security staff suspected it might be the latter detaining a young girl for questioning. india may have a starring growth and be rated just above junk by standard and poor's on wednesday but there's still a helping hand for america's jobless the country is outsourcing call center and back office jobs to the un

europe the general was keen to state that it has long been russia's position that the pursuit of a missile defense shield against these possible threats should be pursued together with russia u.s. nato plans to put that missile shield in eastern europe without russian involvement would result in responses both diplomatic and military because of the undermining of russia's nuclear capability that full interview will be played tomorrow on r.t. and you can watch it here throughout the day. and we're also bringing you full coverage of the eurozone financial crisis on line r.t. dot com and there's plenty more there too including tumbler or terrorist find out why u.s. security staff suspected it might be the latter detaining a young girl for questioning. also online this risky maneuver known as the sandwich is said to be performed for the queen by the prestigious of kremlin at classroom school see more of the stunts and read about the special occasion out partying dot com. the caretaker dutch prime minister is still test spirit to push through budget cuts and has called on lawmakers to help the government collapse on monday when mark rather resigned as a fail to agree on painful measures

europe the general was keen to state that it has long been russia's position that the pursuit of a missile defense shield against these possible threats should be pursued together with russia u.s. nato plans to put that missile shield in eastern europe without russian involvement would result in responses both diplomatic and military because of the undermining of of russia's nuclear capability that full interview will be played tomorrow on r.t. and you can watch it here throughout the day hour and thanks for that live update art there. the caretaker dutch prime minister is still desperate to push through a budget cuts and has called on lawmakers to help him the government collapsed on monday when mark reiter resigned as it failed to agree on painful measures demanded by brussels a political crisis has already been described as a revolt against enforced the austerity u.k. based journalist and blogger neil clark says there is every chance now the netherlands will abandon the l. but he believes it would be disastrous for the single currency. the big divide across europe and not just in the south but in the north as well is between the people and the elite the people have had enough of

nato plans for a missile shield in eastern europe and corresponding criticisms from russia but that's not being done with enough cooperation with russia you can see the full interview with all of the general's comments on missile defense tomorrow on r.t. right tom barton there live in moscow thanks for clearing that up for us tom. i have the job swap that's ringing the changes india long known as the world call center capital is turning the outsourcing tables i work proving on them that americans. a british lie detector test has revealed that the u.k.'s prime suspect in the poisoning and murder former security officer alexander litvinenko is innocent a polygraph has cleared russian m.p. on the gov way who's become the focus of a dispute souring relations for several years between london and moscow which is refusing to extradite him to britain archies laura smith joins us live with more now laura just tell probing was the. well from what voight has said we understand that it was a three hour process so really a very sort of sort of resoundingly test it was performed on google voice and

in europe, we rely on places in europe and greece in support of the nato allis, and our own air atmosphere guantanamo bay will become more important as traffic through the crossroad increases. when i assume the watch as the chief of naval operations i established three key tenants. they're the clee direction for the navy direction. war fighting is first, operate forward, and be ready. war fighting first, that means the navy has to be ready to fight and prevail today while building the ability to win tomorrow. this is our primary mission and all our efforts must be grounded in this fundamental responsibility. iran's recent provocative rhetoric highlights the need for us to have forward deployed war fighting capability and in our 2013 budget submission, we directed funding to weapons, systems, and tactical training that can be fielded to the fleet particularly in this area. this includes demonstrators and prototypes that can improve the force's capability. operate forward, that means we'll provide the nation an offshore option to det deter influence, and win in an era of uncertainty. our 201

>> as i say we believe nato store should remain open to all the countries of europe that are capable achieving the standards that nato sets for membership, and are capable of contributing to nato operations. and if serbia continues on its reformed half, and if the serbian people choose to pursue further integration into euro european and euro atlantic institutions, nato's door will be open. as you know we've had discussions with serbia about cooperation with nato, and there's a great deal of interest among the number of allies in enhancing that cooperation. and so assuming that as elections take place and the new government comes into power, if it chooses to continue to invest in ties with nato, that opportunity will be presented to the serbian people do expand your cooperation with nato. >> thank you. turkish daily. i had quick question about the missile defense system. right now the rate which has been deployed on turkey -- [inaudible] it is not under the command of nato. what kind of decision will be made in chicago regarding this? and also if you clarify what kind of facilities w

nato plans for a missile defense shield in eastern europe and corresponding russian criticisms but that is being done without enough international cooperation you can see the full interview and all of the general's comments about missile defense tomorrow on r.t. . we will indeed now also making headlines around the world tonight media mogul rupert murdoch says former u.k. prime minister gordon brown declared war on his company for switching allegiance for the twenty ten election murdoch's testifying to a british media ethics inquiry about his relations with top level politicians his son james told m.p.'s on choose day about the family's close ties with current prime minister david cameron also a key government it is quit after email surfaced suggesting the culture secretary helped murdoch's now failed attempt to take over satellite broadcaster b. sky b. . nicolas sarkozy's finance ministers given a grim outlook for europe's financial future quote that the debt crisis is far from over and more cuts are vital and quote the time is not good than for the president who has been forced to fig

nato plans for a missile defense shield in eastern europe and corresponding russian criticisms but that is being done without enough international cooperation you can see the full interview and all of the general's comments about missile defense tomorrow on r.t. . but the president is just a bit after twenty five minutes past eleven that live as catch up with katie there at the business desk now you've been guilty of business monitors all night i know you've been telling us about russia and italy sandra mantic but it's hard nosed business isn't the end of the day it is kevin it's serious business and serious money it's all about they signed a deal with it and that's fine the deal with exxon last week now the two companies that work together in the oil rich fields of the arctic and the black sea son thomas has got the details. today's deal between any corporation and russia. vital partnership for oil exploration in the arctic region in the barents sea also a separate project in the black sea as well so what this does is it gives the any corporation thirty three percent about a third of t

nato plans for a missile defense shield in eastern europe and corresponding russian criticisms but that is being done without enough international cooperation you can see the full interview and all of the general's comments about missile defense tomorrow on r.t. . if you cannot escape the speed of the business no katy's at the business desk either so making new foreign friends again what you got for have the lady this time they're at friend's house that has signed a deal with it and that's fine the deal that we had with exxon last week ality companies will work together in the or which fills in the arctic and the black thomas has. today's deal between any corporation and russia. vital partnership for oil exploration in the arctic region in the barents sea also a separate project in the black sea as well so what this does is it gives the any corporation thirty three percent about a third of the profits the oil exploration has. access to any technology as well as a country project as in north africa europe and the united states as well little bit about the financials and he has already co

that european defense and protection of the broader strategic interests of europe and european union can be supported only by nato. we consider it necessary to develop autonomous structures that's why we insist on developing a european defense we will evaluate the benefits and drawbacks involved with a return to the integrated military commander of nato and as you said in connection with our allies so as not to destabilize nato in afghanistan we will withdraw our troops from afghanistan before the end of twenty twelve. ok you want to reassess their francis professor patient and foster or loved ones cooperation on this new european their defense system however while pulling out troops in afghanistan earlier than planned when i got a solid relationships with britain or germany for example who are busting a lot in that effort. our analysis is that our military intervention is not able to add a value that allows a peaceful solution to the crisis of the conflict in afghanistan by our military intervention where we lost the ability to act on political and diplomatic levels we want to regain freedom room to maneuver pol

they are not like western europe or the united states but there are similar -- freer economic systems. and som sort of a mickage it seemed to me would enable nato to arrange itself with added military capability and do a better job of assuring the interests of the nato countries. much better than they can today. but that is a reach for them. if you will. and i think it will happen. i don't know how lost. that is an institutional change they have to make if they want to be relevant. >> in your opinion did the assad regime fall do you have pen thought on what our, the iranian leadership's course of action may northbound. >> i don't but they have enormous influence, they are important there for politically, important financially. i think that the -- it would be unlikely if the assad government fell that it would be replaced by an alo white government because it's a small minority in the country. i think the iranians would have enormous influence as to what actually evolved as that leadership and my guess is it would be something that would be much more to the side of the extremist. and the muslim brother who had or the people who would better fit

a court room to promote his ideas and his views are far from unique in europe as we hear a little later. on another scandal for nato forces in afghanistan as new photos show american soldiers posing with the corpses of afghans that story for the few minutes from now here on r.t. . first bahrain's controversial formula one grand prix motor race has gone ahead without incident but there have been furious rallies against the country's regime outside the race track demonstrators have clashed with security forces over the past week as police responded with tear gas and rubber bullets protests intensified on saturday after the body of a man shot dead was discovered on a rooftop security forces have set up checkpoints and brought armored vehicles to control any possible protests are reports of ten female activists demanding freedom for political prisoners have been arrested porter a middle east expert tariq ali has told me earlier that he explains why political changes in bahrain are not in western interests. demonstrations and anger just on the eve of this ok and clearly security was so very high level. police and securi

spoke to hands around spokesman for the nato game over he took part in the protest and says they were trying to stop a global war machine. the fact that through europe peace activists doesn't. i mean we have to stay specifically cite we didn't use violence but actively trying to get him to stop the preparation for our policies by nato so. the nato headquarters for what happens there is a preparation for a walk around i need for confidence to stop it when it's done it or its citizens are. to show that they want to stop it and they do this now for ten years in afghanistan and i didn't see a lot of success in the libya war and what you see now is to choose or some. new troops to sort of political importance so the fixers you can question if the military interventions are really bringing the ship or are we just arming the next phase in the insuperable horse. the right time to go after the business desk and joins in the tree for the holiday update here i do need to understand the market has dramatically sprung up since we last talked that's right that's manufacturing data came in in the united states which showed an expansion of one percentage point sinc

to hans limerence a spokesman for nato game over who took part in the protest and he says they were trying to stop a global warming chain. the fact that through europe peace activist doesn't mean we have to stay specifically sides we didn't use violence but actively trying to get them to stop the preparation of war policies by nato so we say in the nato headquarters what happens there is appropriation of war i walk crimes and if our governments don't stop it it's the only target citizens reach or to show that they want to stop it they think it's not for ten years enough to understand and i don't see a lot of success in the libya war and what you see now is that you first. brought a new army troops to sort of political importance so you factor in you can question if the military interventions are really bringing peace or are we just arming the next phase in the in civil wars a third brings up to date for the moment here from the newsroom next to me tree will be here with a business update and it's off to a short break. beasts which bryson if you move soon from science to christian. stance on t.v. don't come. out on welcome to the market updates on od

european countries acting under nato could in theory but for both america and europe the financial costs are arguably too high and the political costs of entering another quagmire in the islamic world are simply unacceptable. so u.s. and european forces are very unlikely to go. that leaves turkey positioned on syria's border. turkey could intervene and has been under some pressure for western countries to think about intervening. but the turks are also very concerned about getting into a quagmire in syria. and although arab countries talked about intervening, they probably lack the military wherewithal to do so. so there is no credible intervention force as of yet. and that is why everyone turned to kofi annan and the u.n. and said can you find a diplomatic way snout it's possible in three months or six months if the syrian crisis gets word, there will be another political will for an intervention. but right now there isn't and so instead there's a u.n. process. >> let's go to molly on the democratic line waiting in cincinnati, ohio. good morning, molly. caller: good morning. thank you f

course room to promote his ideas and his views are far from unique in europe as we hear just a little bit later. and another scandal for nato forces in afghanistan as new photos show american soldiers posing with the corpses of so that story in just a few. grains controversial formula one grand prix is going ahead despite widespread fury against the regime on the streets the demonstrators of clashed with security forces during the past week as police responded with tear gas and rubber bullets protests intensified on saturday after the body of a man shot dead and overnight violence was discovered on a rooftop parties a really good reports from the. it took a car fire ahead of a major sporting event for the world to notice the flames of discord in golfing a small island nation in the persian gulf but green is suffocating in the smoke of an ongoing struggle between protesters and police demonstrations have been happening in bahrain for more than a year now protesters say this is the longest lasting revolt in the arab spring but so far the only result from them has been an increase in violence on all sides scenes from the capit

nato can indeed seriously jeopardize our country's nuclear capability and upset the balance that have taken so many years to build will pollute you just mentioned the joint theater missile defense exercise in europe ideally as suddenly as they go to how successful was it that the but i mean we don't often see serious military exercises held jointly by russian and nato troops was it helpful in bringing us closer or not but i knew what you. the other was the final assessment is yet to be me together with our u.s. counterparts but we mainly wanted to consider some realistic scenarios in see what impact missile defense system mayhem on them we considered three options that the adverse to the missile defense systems off russia nato operating. independently you will not the soul the second that it would the two systems using their own q. of equals but sharing the details and the third with sharing everything coming a common missile shield. and you guessed it all three options here so we were in all three of the tests and naturally the first option produced the poorest results the second one was much more effective but the third one with the parties working hand in and proved to be the most effective op

courtroom to promote his ideas but its views are far from unique in europe as we hear just a little bit later. and yet another scandal for nato forces in afghanistan new photos show american soldiers posing with the corpses of a start story in a few. bahrain's controversial formula one grand prix has gone ahead without incident despite widespread fury against the regime on the streets just outside the racetrack demonstrators clashed with security forces over the past week as police responded with tear gas and rubber bullets protests intensified on saturday after the body of a man shot dead was found on a rooftop security forces have set up checkpoints import armored vehicles to thing troll any possible protests political analyst a doctor over the last thinks it's not in western interests to give attention to the regime protester. obviously i mean the attention is on places where there are some interests or western powers. involved here in this case i don't think that the interests of the western powers that are calling for the downfall of the regime in syria for example the demonstrators want to belong to a democratic country

you're trying to promote his ideas and his views of far from unique in europe as we hear just a little bit later. on another scandal for nato forces in afghanistan that's new photos show american soldiers posing with the corpses of afghans that story in a few minutes on our team. but grange a controversial formula one grand prix is going ahead right now despite widespread fury against the regime on the streets outside the race track demonstrators have clashed with security forces over the past week as police responded with tear gas and rubber bullets protests intensified on saturday after the body of a man shot dead was discovered on a rooftop security forces have reportedly set up checkpoints and brought armored vehicles to control any possible protests there let's discuss this further i'm now joined live from beirut by political analyst dr not shabby it's always a pleasure to have you on our radio authorities all for the sure and says the race would not be interrupted the protesters are promised quote days of rage when the formula one seems to leave you think we can expect further violence. yes i think i think this is thi

europe. what is the worse case i can think of? read nationalization of the economies and defense leading to the demise of nato. a lot of economic turmoil not only for europe but for the world markets. i do not think as i have said greece leaving the euro is anything like the worst case scenario. i basically agree with christopher caldwell. i do not see a strong economic resurgence by greece, about three or four years ago i asked the greek economic minister about their plans. this was before the crisis. he said we have a bright economic future. we have tourism and we can increase our exports. greece just as not have the exports to take advantage of a devaluation. they would be hurt by it. i was talking to one of the foreign ministers in town for the g-8 meeting. i was disturbed to learn there will be no discussion of the g-8 forum ministers meeting. a discussion we are having here today. there will be no discussion about the political effects of the economic crisis. i think that is too bad. i think that is a worse way to get to a scenario. in terms of aspirin or speed -- you always put your finger right on the p

nato alliance, defeated the soviet empire and world the world. since then we're coming odds every iraq, afghanistan, reducing in korea, coming odds every europe. we're government a 10% of gdp budget deficit. and the attacks are being made not only entitlements but on the military. the united states is in retreat, take a looking the european countries with gretyl fires. britain and france and the eu, they're disintegrating as countries. they've got none has a -- to enable them to survive. they're all being invaded. the eu is disintegrating. [overlapping speakers] >> why is amazing? >> hearing pat buchanan worrying about us being less of an empire around the world! [overlapping speakers] >> in 1991, instead of -- >> don't you understand? >> but obama is -- hopefully libya will be the end of it. hopefully he will be selective. i do worry thinks foreign policy already the same with bush's, where we won't take this neutrality but the world's policeman thing. as long as you don't have a nuclear weapon. if you do, we leave it to yourself. >> when he is responsible for is enhancing the world's global trading system. so we have gatt, we have the world