the second important element is an agreement on a moratorium on nato expansion eastward.rt enough so that the u.s. and its allies can s that they have not slammed the door on membership. it is a new order. brent: what about the sovereignty of ukraine? isn't that giving into russian demands? >> it is notiving in. i feel confident that if the u.s. and russia wouldower the temperature, it would give ukraine the political space they need to focus on domestic and socioeconomic problems. brent: would me bringing the u.s., ukraine, and russia together to the table for talks? we cannot talk about ukraine without ukraine being there to pursue its own interests. >> it does not mean ukine needs to be physically in the room every time they are being talked about. they have to give up that pretense. we saw that this week. antony blinken began his european tour with a meeting in ukraine with president zelensky and the foreign minister. that is the probe. -- appropriate way to react to this. brent: we appreciate your insights tonight. thank you. we want to take this story to the directo

they say the russians say the response contained no positive reaction on the main issue of nato expansion eastward. . >> reporter: ukrainian military is on high alert, bracing for a possible russian invasion that could come from inside russian territory or inside ukrainian territory that's held by pro-russian separatists. one area is just behind this berm. there are also russian troops there. if russia were to invade, it wouldn't take long for russian troops or russian-backed separatists to come into contact with the ukrainian military. which is why these trenches are so important. the conditions are spartan. it's extremely cold. the soldiers have to chop wood by hand, which they burn for heat. they are nonetheless staying here 24/7. russia keeping ukraine guessing, keeping nato guessing about if or how it might attack. by carrying out military excises in multiple locations. on three sides of ukraine, in the black sea, in the baltic sea. if it were to carry out an invasion it could come from any one of those locations or all of them. a western intelligence official told me that russia has about 11

pushing false narratives when it comes to the fact that russia has raised its concerns about nato expansion eastward. he said the never has promised that nato wouldn't expand, even though russia has provided many documented instances of united states making such a promise that has been broken. now we have a situation further, where at this point, at this point, ukrainian authorities and others are raising allegations about the fact that russia's troops are in russia. russia, moving its own troops around within its borders, is not a threat to ukraine, but the united states continues to play up. this idea that somehow russia is a threat to ukraine. and of course, we have this allegation that somehow russia that somehow united states never, never promised not to move nato eastward. here is what antony blank and said. there was no promise that nato wouldn't expand. nato never promised not to admit new members. it could not and would not. the open door policy was a core provision of the 949 north atlantic treaty that founded nato. russia has provided many examples of nato, promising not to expand the jam

however sergey lab rav expressed to disappointment that russia's primary concern halting nato's expansion eastward in eastern europe was dismissed. lucas's sonia the cumulative. as for the contents of the reply, there are grounds for the beginning of a serious conversation. only about secondary issues regarding the main issue that has been no positive reaction. and the main issue, i remind you, is a clear position on the in admissibility of nato's further expansion, eastwood's and on the deployment of strike weapons that could threaten the territory of the russian federation. the 2 key proposals that russia put forward as lever of said there were just flat out rejected in america's response to them. those 2 key proposals are concerning, the stopping of deployment of offensive weapons in europe that could possibly hit russia and also ceasing the further eastward expansion of nato, specifically into the countries of ukraine and georgia. now that 2nd point there was actually promised to russia back in 1990 when the soviet union was still around it. it was promised to the soviet union and then soviet

the primary, the proposal, primarily try to start is trying to stop nato expansion eastward into the former soviet sphere. this is something that russia claims it was promised long ago. many years ago when the soviet union still exists, existed and mikhail gorbachev was the president of that country. however, the us state department has said that this proposed treaty is a list of non starter and the nato. the nato officials have also echoed that sentiment saying that they won't outright reject any countries that might want to join the military alliance. so, with nato officials and washington seemingly unwilling to consider russia's terms, remains to be seen how successful these talks really will be. could see a corner turn this week, can come wednesday will be across those discussions and also for some analysis to for now they've done a quarter. thank you. now if you were to describe green energy, you might think of solar power, wind power may be, but the e u wants to include natural gas and nuclear, at least when it comes to attracting investment. and it's not gone down well with so

the white house is really the person they should be talking to when it comes to nato and nato expansion, eastwards. so i think of anything this was moscow basically opening the door to one of their most important trade partners. but when it comes to real diplomatic movement, that's going to have to take place on a very, very different level, you know, between washington in moscow and a little bareback has been one of many western def last to say that if russia invite ukraine, they will be serious consequences. russia has lived with european western sanctions for years. and now is these threats likely to have to make any sort of impression on it? oh, to be honest. no, i don't think it is because from the russian perspective they're in kind of a no loos situation here. now if it comes to an actual armed conflict, that's going to be something that, at least from their perspective, they're going to start, which is also i have to stress, not something that they are actually interested in. they realize that because anglo miracle is no longer really leading germany and doesn't at, isn't kind of serving a

it's hard to know because on the one hand, i think russia has issued this demand of no more nato expansion eastward, so many times now in the last few weeks and months. and they've said that they want that as a written guarantee. so it sort of seems hard to imagine that they could kind of step back from that. but i do think the most important thing for russia now is, as i said, to be at the table for the west and nato to take russian concerns seriously. and to kind of include them in discussions on a new, perhaps a new architecture on european security. that's at least what we heard in kremlin statements today that, that, that they want to be part of those discussions. and we did hear from the nato general secretary today, that there could be some discussion of perhaps, mutual guarantees on stationing missiles on each other's territory and further talk . so i do think in some ways this is a limited success. i don't know whether russia will be willing to compromise on those key demands that it keeps laying out and that it wants in written form. terry and emily for now please standby. thank you so mu

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enough so the russians can say that we have met our major security concern, which is about nato's expansion eastwardng enough period, in fact could be forever. at the same token, we have not compromised our view that the door to nato is still open, and that means we have to have a short enough period so it doesn't look like we've given up our abandoned ukraine. >> all right, on that potential note of compromise, i have to close. we will doubtless be back with the two of you to discuss this because this crisis isn't going away. thank you. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ if you have advanced non-small cell lung cancer, your first treatment could be a chemo-free combination of two immunotherapies that works differently. it could mean a chance to live longer. opdivo plus yervoy is for adults newly diagnosed with non-small cell lung cancer that has spread, tests positive for pd-l1, and does not have an abnormal egfr or alk gene. together, opdivo plus yervoy helps your immune system launch a response that fights cancer in two different ways. opdivo plus yervoy equals a chance for more time together. more family time. more time t

absolutely imperative to end the policy and offer russia legally binding guarantees of further nato expansion eastwardto members should and military assistance to ukraine, stop providing weapons, and recall their military instructors and serviceman." now nato has offered russia a wide range of transparency and arms control, but while it awaits a response, u.s. congress, anyway preparing is proverbial stick of sanctions including senator ted cruz's bill to be voted on today to slap sanctions on norton stream 2 right away and hold fire unless and until russian tanks rolled westward, carely a. >> carley: amy kellogg life for us, thank you, amy. and doubling down on his demand for dr. anthony fauci's financial disk disclosure form, fauci and marshall sparred on capitol hill on the financial interest and fauci the highest federal paid employee. he was on a hot michael lee marshall a. the senator is not letting fauci, listen here. >> why is he defensive about this? we cannot access his records in my office cannot get them, you cannot get them and nobody can get them yet. and somehow hiding them from us. so

number of proposals for security guarantees between itself and nato, calling for a ceasing of nato expansion eastward. but unfortunately, washington shopping down, calling them nonstarter, negotiating points, and so deeply diplomatic talks are going to have to go on. in fact, turkey even invited the leaders of russia and ukraine to talks at, for early one to be the mediator of them. so perhaps we'll see something come out of that. okay, all right. well thanks for the update that don't that bizarre teaser don't quarter . well, geo political unless we spoke to does believe that the nighttime military build up cannot be seen purely as defensive. this can only be viewed, this is plying more and more weapons into a ukrainian military do it at the time when tensions are being wretched up in the west. this can only be translated as a provocation. and so this is extremely dangerous. politically, though they're in desperate straits in, in the u. s. u, k, and france, and this conflict or anything even approaching a conflict, even the threat of a conflict would dominate the headlights for months, perhaps, and i

enough so the russians can say that we have met our major security concern, which is about nato's expansion eastwardiod, in fact could be forever. at the same token, we have not compromised our view that the door to nato is still open, and that means we have to have a short enough period so it doesn't look like we've given up our abandoned ukraine. >> all right, on that potential note of compromise, i have to close. we will doubtless be back with the two of you to discuss this because this crisis isn't going away. thank you. some of my best memories growing up, were cooking with mom. she always said, “food is love.” so when she moved in with us, a new kitchen became part of our financial plan. ♪ i want to make the most of every meal we have together. ♪ at northwestern mutual, our version of financial planning helps you live your dreams today. find a northwestern mutual advisor at nm.com . . . psoriatic arthritis, made my joints stiff,... ...swollen, painful. emerge tremfyant®. tremfya® is approved to help reduce joint symptoms in adults with active psoriatic arthritis. some patients even felt less f

to end of the policy of open doors and offer russia legally binding guarantees of further nato expansion eastward u.s. deputy secretary of state suppression actions amplified nato. >> one of the things russia has done, which it did not expect, it has brought all of europe, na and non-nato allies alike, together. they share the same set of principles, same ambition, same hopes, and same commitment to diplomacy. correspondent: diplomacy to disarm a crisis created by 100,000 russian troops deployed to ukraine borders. the u.s. worn that number could double in russia could invade. the nato secretary-general said both sid discuss future meetings, and the good news is russia did not walk out. >> the russians were not ready to cmit to a series of discussions that the secretary-general will lay out, but nor did they direct those discussions. correspondent: there are some differences, especially over russian gas, the european union reports nearly half its gas from russia -- imports nearly half its gas from russia. since 2011 marissa has used the norge dream one pipeline under the baltic seat --, russia ha

instead russia stuck to its list of demands including a legally binding halt to nato's expansion eastward discussion i'm about to have. vladimir putin has a somewhat obsession with nato which is the strong of the military alliance and it's bringing russia and ukraine to the brink of war and it is all due to have power over the region that the ussr once controlled. let's take a look at nato. this is what the nato alliance looked like in 1978. the nato countries are in green and russia is in red. there is this buff every countries between russia and the nato alliance. at the time those countries in the middle and all soviet states formed the warsaw pact. the soviet influence counterweight to nato. they were not so much allies of the soviet union as they were captive allies and russia for trade and for protection. over time those countries were given the chance to turn toward the west by becoming democracies and joining the nato alliance. most of them jumped at the opportunity and this is the result. this is what the nato map looks like today. you can see the alliance has expanded eastward q

putting further progress on 3 key points, no nato, eastward expansion, or ukraine, membership or missiles pointed to russian territory. the testers take to the streets in melbourne in support of tennis world. number one novak to povich earlier, he won his court battles and challenged the cancellation of his visa to enter australia. although the countries, the immigration minister answered, he still has the power to cancel it. we never thought our son, the best athlete and tennis player in the world would have had to go through this. but as you can see, politics couldn't take a win over him. this time also vladimir putin says russia and its allies would not allow a revolution backed by the terrorists. she addressed the summit of the military alliance of sitting members street convicts don't need to think that we will not allow the situation in our homeland to be disturbed. we will not allow a so called cooler revolution to be carried out. the news broadcasting my direct my studios in moscow. this is art international, and sean thomas certainly glad to have you with us right now. high stake

imperative to end the policy of open doors and offer ssia legally binding guarantees of further nato's expansion eastwarduty secretary of state wendy sherman said russian actions unified nato. >> i think one of the things that russia has done-- which it probably did not expect-- it has brought all of europe, nato and non-nato allies alike, together, to share the same set of principles, the same ambition, the same hopes and the same commitment to diplomacy. ( gunfire ) >> schifrin: diplomacy, to solve a crisis createby 100,000 russian troops deployed to ukraine's borders. the u.s. warns that number could double, and russia could invade. despite the dierences, nato sretary general jens stoltenberg noted both sides discussed future meetings, and the u.s. said the good news was, russia didn't walk out. >> the russians were not ready to commit to the series of discussions that the secretary-general will lay out, but nor did they reject those discussions. >> schifrin: while nato presents a united front, there are some differences, especially over russian natural gas. today, the european union imports nearly ha

we asked, what is nato strategy also, what is russia's strategy dealing with nato eastward expansion, and what are the likely outcomes, purple, cross sucking nato, russia. tensions. i'm joined by my guess, charl shoe bridge in london. he's a security analyst and former u. k. army an counterterrorism intelligence officer in washington, we have michael maloof. he is a former pentagon senior security policy analyst, and here in moscow we have alexi. now, he is an expert at the russia council on international affairs, as well as chief editor, it r t dot com. all right, gentlemen, cross hak rules and effect that music and jumping any time you want. and i always appreciate, let's go to charles 1st in london, and i'm really sick and tired of all the misinformation and propaganda that is being spewed about these growing tensions. there are tensions, there's no doubt about that. okay. but i'm how they're being characterized is really important. for us on this program to set straight. so charles, i asked 3 questions in my introduction. what, what, what is, what is nato up to? what is the gambit

talk with us, pending further progress on 3 team points, no nato eastward expansion, or ukraine. membership or missiles pointed to russian territory. vladimir putin says russia and its allies would not allow a revolution backed by terrorists, as he addressed a summit of the military alliance assisting member state conflicts done. even today, we will not allow the situation in our homeland to be disturbed. we will not allow a so called cooler revolution to be carried out. hosso protesters take to the street in melbourne in support of tennis world. number one, know back to college earlier he won his court battle that challenge that the cancellation of his visa to enter australia. although the countries immigration minister in 50 is still has the power to cancel it, we talked to the players father in serbia with we never thought our son, the best awfully tennis player in the world would have had to go through this. but as you can see, politics couldn't take a win over him. this time. a broadcasting lab, direct my studios in moscow. this is our international on john thomas. certainly glad to ha

but as about as for our approach about the need to stop in each of these and listed in the expansion nato. eastward expansion of nato, of course, we re to rated antony blink and reiterated his position about the right to choose alliances. and as i've mentioned, i just wonder how the u. s. has going to feel at supplications on. they always see next to the right to choose their lines. it was endorsed at the highest level of this obligation not to strengthen any security at the expands of other countries social security. he promised me to explain how the us interprets these obligations . there's, like i said, that's not the end of our dialect. next week, we are going to receive the new 1000000 can for which has anthony blink and said, we will get the written response process. and as for our principal stance, it's also non expansion, nato. a lot of people ask why it will, because this block was established as a block against the soviet union. and now it's operating against the russian federation, and it's in their doctrines. so i will give you an example of when eastern europeans, 1st of all that on th

at the german council on foreign relations, and he told us more about russia's fears of nato's eastward expansion. from time to discuss or understand the rational perspective, one needs to remember that ever since 2008 need to has a valid promise taking in georgia and ukraine on board. the board is clearly committed once georgia and you will be member of that lives. there is no deadline to death, but the promise is still down and the promises that it and russia keeps considering me to as crime, very military threat and also sore potential. danger for the, for the safety of the rational, the ration from russia perspective and future accession ukraine today to indeed for the it's another question. however, the alliance does not take in any country, because an on going to, we're going to do moment ukraine has to look at maybe the crimea combined. the eagle, you make by russia, as well as he's doing your brand right now, it doesn't seem to be to get all the way to make it to be alliance any time. so still russia even the possibility that so now let's bring you up to speed with some of the other stori

he told us more about russia's fears of nato's eastward expansion. from trying to discuss or understand the russian perspective. one needs to remember that ever since 2008 need to has a valid promise taking in georgia and ukraine on board. i mean, they made a clean and committed once georgia and ukraine would be member of that lives. there is no deadline, but that's the debt, but the promise is still there and the promises that it and russia keeps considering me to as crime or a military threat. and it was so sore potential danger for territory and for the safety of the rational the ration from russia perspective and future accession, are you going to need to indeed, or the other question. however, the alliance does not taking any concrete. we had an on going to, we're going to do moment ukraine has to look at maybe the crimea ok by the, by russia, as well as eastern your brain right now, it doesn't seem to be nice to get all the way to make it to be alliance any time, so still rush even the possibility of that. so we can turn our attention now to so

nato's expansion. >> the issue is not nato's eastward expansion. ukraine was not ready for nato membership. what this is about is vladimir putin's fear of revolution. he had a pro russia that was overthrown. it is going to be a rough enter in russia. ain't inflation -- inflation is at 18%, but russians when they go to war, they can suffer. it looks like he is trying to call of the former soviet union's influence to distract his population and live to fight another winter. >> what about ukraine itself? this is a boxing match. kyiv does not really have any influence. >> they do have influence. people are still talking about historic parallels with 1938. nato takes decision by consensus. if the ukraine is sold down the river without their interests taking part, lithuania, latvia, estonia, also former members of the soviet union who have significant russian ethnic groups that vladimir putin has messed with in the past, they will hold up everything in nato. these reinforcements are extracting countries that are worried about that. >> how much do you think this conflict has revitalized nato? the

russia is demanding that nato stop its expansion eastward because it sees that as a threat to its nationalecurity. i mean, is that true? >> actually, to understand the russian perspective, one needs to remember ever since 2008, nato has promised taking george and ukraine on board. once georgia and ukraine are members of their lives, there is no deadline for that, but the promise is still there. and russia keeps considering nato as a primary military threat and also a source of potential danger for the territory -- the safety of the russian federation. as for russia's perspective, it would indeed pose a threat. the alliance does not take in any country that has conflicts -- and ukraine has that. right now, it doesn't seem to be that ukraine wou make it to the alliance anytime soon. still, russia perceives the very possibility is a threat. brent: the german council on foreman relations represented of, we appreciate your time and your insights tonight -- representative, we appreciate your time and insights tonight. let's take a look now at some of the other stories making headlines from aroun

and crucial security talks with us getting further progress on 3 key points, no nato eastward expansion, or ukraine, membership or missiles pointed to russian territory. why did we put in, says russia and its allies would not allow a revolution backed by terrorists, as he addressed a summit of the military alliance assisting members stage comic stump. steamy. if we could, we will not allow the situation in our homeland to be disturbed. you will not allow a so called color revolution to be carried out. i also protesters take to the streets in melbourne in support of tennis world, number one, no box your cove. it earlier he won his cord battle that challenge the cancellation of his visa to enter australia. although the countries in.

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it also wants naturist -- once nato to stop its expansion eastward in the rollback of nato deploymentsand eastern europe. you can see theuropean nato members in this map, in red. russia already shares a small part of its border with nato countries. if ukraine were to join, it would increase the countries in the alliance on russian borders. here is the russian deputy foreign minister speaking after the talks. >> the main task of nato policy and military deployment is to deter russia and enormous resources are being allocated for purpose. they don't conceal that this is the alliance's main purpose. >> our guest is from george waington university. >> i don't think nato and the west are prepared for the risks of granting nato -- granting ukraine nato membership anytime soon. now, the discussion is more about informal cooperation between the west and ukraine on weapons provisions and military training read line subsisted consistently and it is no longer about any formal association to nato. now, in his own words, it is about any military cooperation with nato countries. and this is where th

with no breakthrough to report, russia has up the pressure of seeking a hawk to nato's eastward expansion, as well as a written response to his security demands. and it says or wants that by next week . but with the west refusing to budge the kremlin is keeping his troops in place on ukraine's border. rush and snipe is ready for action near the ukrainian border. just some of the military exercises being carried out by moscow, as it continues to threaten its neighbour. russian troops have been massing along the boat for weeks, has tensions between the 2 nations grow. the satellite images taken at the beginning of december had already stoked fears that moscow was planning to invade ukraine. over the last few days, there's been a flurry of diplomatic activity as the u. s. nato and the e u. each tries to avert a war. but so far it appears to have come to nothing. cities, oliver, it was obvious from the beginning that the position of russia was unacceptable. it is not take a diplomacy genius to realize that russia's proposals were difficult to accept for the western world. calling mongol to go

nato's east wood expansion? well, good question, but it's kind of the wrong question. i mean, the issue is not nato's eastward expansion. ukraine was nowhere near ready for nato membership and ukraine's been billed us about joined us. what this is really about is students fear of a color revolution like you had in ukraine. you know, he had of a friendly play pro russia guy there who was overthrown by people who are fed up with the corruption and the efficiency and all that. it's going to be a rough winter in, in russia. the economy is tanking. inflation is 18 percent 40 percent of russians don't have any savings. but one thing russians can do is when they go to a war footing, they can suffer for the sake of the country. so it looks like what he's trying to do is basically call for a reem position of the former soviet union security sphere of influence, distract his own population, solidify his rule and live to fight another winter. and then what about ukraine itself? i mean, this is a boxing match above the head of ukraine's president who called on the west not to create panic. but kid doesn't really have any

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we ask, what is nato strategy also, what is russia's strategy dealing with nato eastward expansion? and what are the likely outcomes for both? i cross sucking nato russia. tensions. i'm joined by my guess, charl shoe bridge in london. he's a security analyst and former u. k. army and counterterrorism intelligence officer in washington, we have michael maloof. he is a former pentagon senior security policy analyst, and here in moscow we have alexi. now he is an expert at the russia council on international affairs as well as chief editor at r t t dot com. all right, general in cross hoc rules and effect that music and jumping any time you want. and i always appreciate, let's go to charles 1st in london. and i'm really sick and tired of all the misinformation and propaganda that is being spewed about these growing tensions. there are tensions, there's no doubt about that. okay. but, and how they're being characterized is really important for us on this program to set straight. so charles, i asked 3 questions in my introduction. what, what, what is, what is nato up to? what is the gamb

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we ask, what is nato strategy also, what is russia's strategy dealing with nato eastward expansion, and what are the likely outcomes for both cross sucking nato russia tensions i'm joined by my guess, charl shoe bridge in london. he's a security analyst and former u. k. army an counterterrorism intelligence officer in washington, we have michael maloof. he is a former pentagon senior security policy analyst, and here in moscow we have alexi. now, he is an expert at the russian council on international affairs as well as chief editor at r t t dot com, all right, general and cross our rules and effect that music and jumping and.

we asked what is nato strategy also, what is russia's strategy dealing with nato, eastward expansion, and what are the likely outcomes for both? ah, cross knocking nato russia. tensions i'm joined by my guess, charl shoe bridge in london. he's a security analyst and former u. k. army and counterterrorism intelligence officer in washington. we have michael ma loop. he is a former pentagon senior security policy analyst, and here in moscow we have alexi. now, he is an expert at the russian council on international affairs, as well as chief editor at r t t dot com, all right, general, across our rules and effects, that means you can jump in anytime you want. and i always appreciate it. let's go to charles 1st in london, and i'm really sick and tired of all the misinformation and propaganda that is being spewed about these growing tension. there are tensions, there's no doubt about that. ok. but how they're being characterized is really important for us on this program. to set straight. so charles, i asked 3 questions in my introduction, what is, what is nato up to? what is the gambit her

nato's secretary general, jens stoltenberg, has told the bbc it's up to russia to decide whether to pursue a diplomatic path. moscow — which objects to nato's eastward expansionenied it plans to invade. here's our diplomatic correspondent, caroline hawley. nato is beefing up its deterrents in eastern europe with every passing day. this is the west's continuing counter build—up in the face of what downing street is calling rising russian aggression. the aim is to show moscow the price it could pay if it does invade ukraine. to send a message to russia that there will be severe consequences but, of course, the most important thing is to try to prevent military action by russia against ukraine. and so we need to work hard for the best but be prepared for the worst. and this is why there are fears for the worst. over the past few days, there have been russian military exercises by land, air and sea. moscow still insists it has no plans to invade ukraine, accusing the west of fuelling tensions. but this level of military build—up has caused international alarm. there's no talk from any western country of sending troops to fight to defend ukraine itself, but a smal

but this sacred obligation is only relatively recent and only as a result of nato's direct expansion eastward? that is absolutely true. but these countries are now part of nato and so america and the other nato allies have a treaty obligation to fend them. ukraine is not in nato. the biden administration has explicitly ruled out sending oops to ukraine -- this is e real point about this possible u.s. and nato military deployment to the baltic states and other nato members. russia has no intention of attacking these countries. it has showedbsolutely no indication it is going to attack them. so the trips a not really opening any useful function at all. either way, also, i mean, if russia were threatening to attack them, then the deployments being made would be absolutely ridiculous. denmark is sending precisely two fighter jets. holland is sending one ship. it is very lucky for us that russia is not actually a threat to nato because that would not stop them. i think the only possible useful role of these do nato deployments is we can offer to take them awakened in terms of russia withdrawing it

west accuses rusher of plans to invade ukraine. moscow's also lay down its red lines on nato's eastward expansion and ukraine. never joining the military alliance along with missiles aimed at russia. training. and activities with respect to our moving capabilities around will continue in russia because this is what is absolutely required to maintain the necessary level of operative readiness. our of our armed forces in this situation were security environment for russia changed dramatically to the worse. we are worried though, when concerned on possible for locations on the part of ukraine. full of following those toes. first is a correspondence shall depend sky. heather, charlotte, what are the key takeaway points from today's talk to the low media briefing earlier, almost after it from mr. rap. gov, our and a half. yes, that's right. lots to say from the russian delegation in regards to what was discussed today in the inflexibility from the americans on certain issues. as you mentioned there, that red line for russia, which is ukraine joining the nato alliance, not just ukraine, but ga, to, for

the west accuses rush of plans to invade ukraine. moscow has also laid down red lines on nato's eastward expansion and ukraine. never joining the military alliance along with missiles and russia. if now, nato proceeds towards deployment of capabilities that are being developed very rapidly in the us. somewhere in europe. it would require immediate to response on the russian part through means that our discretion with will, that will inevitably unavoidably damage. security of the u. s. and these european allies are lots to say from the russian delegation in regards to what was discussed today in the inflexibility from the americans on certain issues. is that red line for russia, which is ukraine? joining the nato alliance, not just ukraine, but ga, to for russia. also asking for roll back of military and weapon deployment in countries that have ascended the nato alliance since 1997. now, when you going into these talks at the united states, it said that it couldn't really discuss the security of europe without its allies. and one of the crucial issues is there are tensions between not just russia a

but of course, the elephant in the room was very much the conflict surrounding nato's eastward expansion and the fruit build up in ukraine. and they're both sides basically seem to express some hopeful optimism. saying that while i'm in from the view of moscow that you was ready to discuss some of russia's security propositions. but at the same time, there was a little better what was much more guarded in her responses. basically saying that from the view of the you, russia is in violation of many different international treaties, specifically regarding these military threats direct that ukraine and also when it comes to human rights, specifically pointing to jailed opposition leader alexey nev only, and also the breakup of the russian human rights groups, memorial and analytic book also said that despite those important economic ties, i'm germany in the you more broadly would be considering economic sanctions against moscow. if it doesn't change its tune on a raw on a row of different human rights and security issues. and what is your sense here? i mean, how much can germany in europe a