if any of these are up for a fight, it certainly will be matt gaetz up or that ag position. >> natoshayou, all of this is going on, the investigation into gates was expecting to be voted on, to be made public this week that means tomorrow. they were investigated whether gaetz investigated and engaged in drug use, accepted improper gifts, had special privileges and favors to people he had a personal relationship, and to obstruct the government from looking into his conduct. gaetz has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing, but what do you think this means? does this mean -- does this tell you that using him was simply for the shock and all of it , or that donald trump was serious about putting matt gaetz indisposition? >> this is clearly a very unserious pick. the first question that came to mind, sarah, was, are the qualifications in the room with us ? there was so much hammering about ddi dei, and all of this concern over so-called minorities getting positions that they did not deserve clinically and institutionally in our country, and you have even republicans saying that this is an unqual

. >>> natosha is a president of government -- joins us from england. it's good to see you . we were just saying, it would be fascinating to be a fly on the wall between that meeting between biden and trump happening in the last day , or at least we expect to happen. natosha, we have been talking about how some of trump's key appointments have been taking shape for the white house. let's discuss some of them. we know that a broad crackdown on immigration was a pillar of his campaign. what can someone tell us about how the trump team will be taking the issue forward during this term? >> reporter: the immigration issue is one of the most important immigration issue for trump and those who voted for him. donald trump wanted to choose someone that was going to be really, really tough on immigration and start implementing this policy of deporting up to 11 million people as soon as possible. this is one campaign promise he wants to really start on day one. this is how he has been influenced by stephen miller, one of his close advisers that will likely play a role in the cabinet for

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. >> thank you, natosha. let's bring in david sanger. the timing is interesting. this was a policy that was approved earlier, which means before the election. the election was also earlier, so not long before it. what does it signal to you and what are the questions about what might happen when this transitions to the trump administration? >> two big questions come up out of it, brianna. the first is why the administration did not do this earlier. president joe biden was concerned about american casualties. there had been, essentially, none in the ukraine war that is the reason he told all american troops, including some pentagon units and cyber units and others to get out of ukraine before the invasion in february 2022, and that included the contractors. as natasha indicated, that made a very big difference to the ukrainians because it meant they could not do repairs on site. so, there is some risk and there are risks you could have american casualties. what it really opens up though, brianna, is the question of the one other big hanging decision in front of pres