when you take the footage and you take the testimony of people like walt nauta and molly michael, youy, nicolle. so first a big picture point and then to your question. the big picture point is that the news reports that carol's referring to and that you started this hour with, they're a great reminder that the other investigations into donald trump haven't stopped just because we've all been focusing on the manhattan district attorney one over the last couple weeks donald trump's legal concerns extend far beyond new york and i've always felt that this set of mar-a-lago charges is one that he will ultimately face, that this is really, really serious. and i agree -- i'm kind of almost rethinking myself, but i do agree with bill barr here on this point this is not just about the stolen security documents. it's about the obstruction after the fact and carol rightly points out that key paragraph in the "washington post's" story about trump's actions after receiving the subpoena now, you asked about the walt nauta stories and everything else and in conjunction with the new reporting it's r

get your feedback on the legal significance of this so, the report in october, trump's valet, walt nautaes at the forme presidents instruction, afte the subpoena was issued. smith's team's video surveillance footage corroborating the account. they have also amassed evidenc indicating trump told others t mislead government officials i early 2022, before the subpoena when the national archives and records administration was working with the justice department trying to recover a wide range of papers, many o them not classified from trump 's time as president there seems to be a lot of evidence here of motive an knowledge and intent >> that's right, and that is key, because a mistake, yo know, can't be obstruction o justice. the concealing, the fals documents has to be done wit intent to obstruct or influenc an official proceeding and an fbi investigation is by law an official proceeding and i will tell you anothe thing about intent, all of tha information that we're seeing, and evidence that we are hearing about being accumulated, some of it goes, you know, directly potentially to hi inten