tell me why it's been so important for you to be a navy s.e.a.l. >> tell uma why you want to be a navy> i want to save the country and because i want to save people. >> well, that's wonderful. i know you're very patriotic. jerryd, talk to me for a moment about the special relationship you have with this little boy. >> well, the company that i work for, a symmetric solutions, we have a strong commitment of giving back to the community, so when mason's parents reached out to us via e-mail, it was too easy to accommodate this task and make mason's dream of becoming a navy s.e.a.l. true. it's something that u know, we do that type of stuff every day. and, you know, knowing the lasting impact that was going to have on mason, we really want wanted to support that and make him a s.e.a.l. for a day. we had a great time doing it. >> you took him through a bunch of maneuvers and routines that a lot of navy s.e.a.l.s experience. and you showed him firsthand what it means to be a navy s.e.a.l. that must have been very rewarding for you. >> absolutely. we went through navy s.e.a.l. cqb training and

the united states navy has spent only as of dollars trying to discover how a navy s.e.a.l. is made. what makes some people succeed and go through basic training and what makes 70% of people fail. they look for demographics. they look for ethnicity and family background. they look to religion and they found none of that mattered. some of the most successful navy s.e.a.l.s grew up in wealthy suburban homes and real standout navy s.e.a.l.s grew up on food stamps and public housing housing. some were white and some more distinguished like jj johnson. some were hispanic and someone were eurasian. many were foreign-born and i have a story of a man imprisoned in communist poland who grew up in that struggle. they come from all walks of life all economic backgrounds and all faiths. they can't find the comments of nominator except for one thing. they never quit. what what makes a seal get through all of these levels of training and makes them a real standout in combat is they are able to choose three things at the same time which no one else can really do. they dominate their bodies. they co

i don't know if we have our former navy s.e.a.l. i'd love to know the diving challenge this would provide to go down there. we don't have him, as well. we also have to worry, professor, about hypothermia. obviously if this water is 55, 60 degrees. there's a big difference even in that small span there. as long as they keep the core above that liquid they would be okay, for how long? >> well, you know, you will succumb very quickly in cold water. i hear the water is about 50 degrees. a person can go uncon can, as quickly as 15 minutes in water of that temperature but you can survive up to six hours. it is a water of hours and minutes if you are in very cold water. it's key there be warm and dry in this case. and really it's the temperature that matters. but, you know, the other things of carbon dioxide toxicity, lack of oxygen and lack of fresh water to drink could play a role. now we are talking a few days, hours to days they could survive sglit has been a couple of days. >> i guess we have cade courtly back on the phone with us. gi

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cade, our navy s.e.a.l. was suggesting they should focus on cutting in to the side of the hulls opposed to diving under. how would that work? would that release whatever air is inside? >> well, if you are talking to me, bill, i would imagine if you are going to cut in to the side or the upward-facing part of the hull, then you are going to have to put a bail or something over it so that water doesn't rush in as soon as you cut through the hole. >> cade, have you done any underwater welding work? how long will it take for divers to cut through the health hull? >> here's the situation with this. four huge cranes. you are not trying to lift the ship out of the water. that's not going to happen but what you can do with the four cranes is stabilize it and probably bring it up about ten feet. instead of jamming around and essentially, you know, the waters you are dealing with right now on the surf, you have a stable platform that is no longer sinking. now you start to cut in to the ship. instead of divers going al

i want to bring the panel james staples, retired navy s.e.a.l. s.e.a.l. brandon webb is joining us as well. captain, let me start with you. the idea that a young man who is presumably among the missing aboard the ship was able to call korean authorities and sound the alarm three minutes before a natural call from the ship came. does that surprise you? >> absolutely. disheartening. shows the intention on the crew's part which will go back to the training. we need to find out where the captain was at the time the call was made. to be fair to him we have to know if the captain was on the bridge at that time. i hasn't had a time line so i can't say but disheartening especially when a young boy, makes an emergency call over a seasoned captain. >> is there a procedure for calling authorities? i read that it's the captain in terms of the ship personnel, the captain has to make the distress call, is that true. >> generally that's true. the captain will put the distress call. it is usually a mayday call. >> so somebody on the bridge would wait for the captain to m

he is a former navy s.e.a.l. joining us from cleveland.ob, first to you, let's talk about the connection between these strikes and the emergence of the video of a large gathering of al qaeda in yemen. connection between those two things? >> i think the yemeni government is clearly been embarrassed by this meeting. right in the center of its country. it had been pretending that it had conquered al qaeda problem. in fact, it hadn't and this is the reaction and allegations that it sent the army into the tribal areas to take care of it. so i think there's a direct connection, yes. >> chris, let's turn to you. the white house we know their policy is to not talk about drone strikes. yemen is a high-level yemeni government official saying this was a joint mission with the u.s. who is behind it? >> i would tend to believe the yemeni official. we don't publicize the bulk of the drone strikes but the obama administration has pulled the trger on drone strikes many more times than the bush administration has done. obama has sent some drones to some ta

jonathan, you're a former navy s.e.a.l. and former fbi special agent. there is a bond inexplicable that you cannot explain to people among military personnel and this has now happened twice. it's got to be devastating for this community. >> it is. and going along with what k.t. was saying, what is devastating is the fact that these men and women are charged with carrying weapons overseas. they are charged with taking another person's life and in accordance with what our country is fighting for and yet when they come back, they take those weapons away from them. they don't trust them with those weapons. i've seen national guard and soldiers at an airport or doing security after a major event that happened somewhere and they don't even have any ammunition in their magazines. why are they not >> that's a gr. why do you think that would be? >> well, i think it goes to the same nonsense assaying that we know that this is not a terrorist or this is a common shooter or a soldier on soldier shooting when we don't actually know it. i mean, there has to be more c

the navy s.e.a.ls that rated the hideout gathered up of large number of documents. it included a copy of jim's paper one tribe that is time that had ridings in the margin as well as a directive to identify him by name in ordering the he be killed there is much more to this story that kincaid's insights for the future of military intervention in a traditional society in the psychological toll of more than a decade of combat on our troops. above all the message of the book is that war is intensely human. no technology to replace the power of human relationships in waging war to win the peace. one last word about the term betrayal. jim was ultimately pulled out of afghanistan by the special forces commander who were not easy with his maverick ways and rule breaking when he took him away abdul was on crutches and in tears. news special forces team moved in and they held the commanders at arm's length and banished him and refused to give them water then in an act of betrayal they fired abdul. thank you again for your interest and i will be happy to answer your questions.

i am the real deal i was a navy s.e.a.l., right? then i went on and became a federal air marshal then an fbi agent here in new york. it's just as hard for me to get a concealed weapons carry permit in this country as anyone that lives anywhere else. >> took me years i've been trained in the use of a firearm and pistol since i was 11 years old. takes years and a lot of death threats. something is wrong with the system. >> it's ridiculous >> we have a brave woman that is, this military personnel confronted him. then, he shot himself. thank god they were there. because without that weapon, would he have just continued this rampage? those questions will be answered in days and weeks ahead breaking news continues we now have 16 people injured confirmed three dead, four to include shooter ask self inflicted wound. fort hood. second incident now just a few second incident now just a few short year when folks in the lower 48 think about what they get from alaska, they think salmon and energy. but the energy bp produces up here creates somet

i am the real deal i was a navy s.e.a.l., right?hen i went on and became a federal air marshal then an fbi agent here in new york. it's just as hard for me to get a concealed weapons carry permit in this country as anyone that lives anywhere else. >> took me years i've been trained in the use of a firearm and pistol since i was 11 years old. takes years and a lot of death threats. something is wrong with the system. >> it's ridiculous >> we have a brave woman that is, this military personnel confronted him. then, he shot himself. thank god they were there. because without that weapon, would he have just continued this rampage? those questions will be answered in days and weeks ahead breaking news continues we now have 16 people injured confirmed three dead, four to include shooter ask self inflicted wound. fort hood. second incident now just a few short years. we'll continue. announcer ] you get sick, you can't breathe through your nose... suddenly you're a mouthbreather. well, put on a breathe right strip and instantly open your no

actions to murder, we will bring the latest from the water where divers are working and a former navy s.e.a.l. joins us to talk about the incredible difficulty there's. >>> should anyone believe the authority figure in russia when vladimir putin says he knows nothing, nothing about russian special forces meddling in ukraine. the ukrainians say they have photographic proof that he's lying. u.s. government seems to agree. so what to do? we have ideas from both ends of the political spectrum. >>> and we're entering the seventh week in the mystery of flight 370. that bluefin drone coming up empty once again. two-thirds of the way done with the search area that everyone was so hopeful about based on those location pings two weekends ago. to make things harder there's a typhoon in the search area. we'll have the very latest on this. after so much grim news for so long let's begin with a story that just might be some kind of aviation miracle. a 16-year-old stow away who hitchhiked from california to maui in the wheel well of a 767 and somehow lived to talk about it. according to officials he got int

with me now, retired navy s.e.a.l. and v.a. patient himself.ll right, chris, you yourself were a veteran. you put your life on the line for us. what's your reaction? >> my first initial reaction is this dr. foot, good, he's a whistle blower. i kind of want to put my foot up his back side yfrl didn't he say something in the last 15 or 20 years? he's been working for the v.a. 20 years. god bless him but i think it is a little late. in my opinion people are saying it is the top five people in that administration are to blame. that's b.s. they broke the first rule of medicine. first do no harmful they've done a lot of harmful 40 people are dead. this is not the first time she's done this. >> whoa, whoa, what has she done before? >> she was working in spokane washington, v.a. from 2007 to 2008, they misreported the am of that committed suicide under her command. they reported it was 9. it was actually 22. this is not her first offense. this is a lady that made $170,000 last year and she got a $9745 bonus last year. >> i hate these bonuses. why do pe

navy s.e.a.l., editor of softrep.com a web site for news about the special ops and intelligence communitiesme now by phone. brandon, of what significance to you the fact that apparently mr. lopez sought out treatment? >> well, you look at the law enforcement led by the fbi has done a great job over the last few years about raising awareness and training in regards to these active shooter incidents. and to me this just points out that we really need to up the training for the mental health industry and the professionals to help them identify their early warning signs here. here's a guy that sought out help and was on medication within months of doing that, went out and purchased a firearm. so i'm just a little bit shocked at how none of these warning signs triggered any red flags with anybody. >> in other words, the fact that he was seeking some level counselling, you're wondering why would that have triggered a process where he couldn't have access to the firearm. >> exactly. i think the base security should be commended. that policewoman who stood up to the gunman, that takes a lot of guts

olympians and paralympians at the white house including lieutenant dan cnossen, navy s.e.a.l.putee who the first lady says she personally found so inspiring. the president as you heard him say there america's veterans take care of us and when they come home, we need to take care of them. after members of the military were killed and injured yesterday in the mass shooting at ft. hood in texas, today, of course, those sentiments take on stronger resonance. joining us now, rajiv chandrasekaran, senior correspondent for the "washington post." thanks very much for being here. it's nice to have you here. >> it's good to be back with you. >> you've done a survey with kaiser and the "washington post" with iraq and afghanistan veterans and it's come out in what we didn't know was going to be an incredibly important moment in terms of america's perceptions of veterans. i wonder, i want to talk to you about that survey more broadly and about america's veterans coming home, but i wonder if the ft. hood shooting if you feel like there's been excessive focus on the fact that the suspected p

the united states navy has spent only as of dollars trying to discover how a navy s.e.a.l. is made. what makes some people succeed and go through basic training and what makes 70% of people fail. they look for demographics. they look for ethnicity and family background. they look to religion and they found none of that mattered. some of the most successful navy s.e.a.l.s grew up in wealthy suburban homes and real standout navy s.e.a.l.s grew up on food stamps and public housing housing. some were white and some more distinguished like jj johnson. some were hispanic and someone were eurasian. many were foreign-born and i have a story of a man imprisoned in communist poland who grew up in that struggle. they come from all walks of life all economic backgrounds and all faiths. they can't find the comments of nominator except for one thing. they never

with all of your navy s.e.a.l.raining and search and rescue, what other kinds of things can be done to try to at least ensure their safety as they do this critical work? >> well, i'll tell you what, my million dollar question right now is we had these crane ships, these crane vessels, three of them on station for about four to five days now. i don't understand why they were not utilized earlier to at least secure the vessel when it was still on the surface. making the diving operations far less dangerous. >> that's a good point. the captain's here. there was some discussion that using the cranes to stabilize the ship so that it wouldn't sink further might have actually dislodged any potential air pockets if there were survivors using those air pockets. any truth to that? >> it's possible. i agree putting the cranes on scene early would have been of great benefit for this recovery, absolutely. >> do you see the point in that argument, that perhaps the cranes might have done more harm than good? it defies logic but c

just ahead, a former navy s.e.a.l. takes us inside the rescue effort step by dangerous step, showing us what it is like. also, we'll go to paula hancock who has an update on what the divers are doing. >>> and later, what chances they have of finding fliefrs. flight 370 i don't want to think about the alternative. i don't even know how to answer that. i mean, no one knows how long their money is going to last. i try not to worry, but you worry. what happens when your paychecks stop? because everyone has retirement questions. ameriprise created the exclusive confident retirement approach. to get the real answers you need. start building your confident retirement today. dive into our salmon bruschetta atop a buttery crab risotto, the new spring seasonal menu is now at olive garden. or fall in yum with our chicken primavera, always served with unlimited salad and breadsticks. the all new spring seasonal menu at olive garden. we did a 27-point inspection on your chevy,ce, you got new tires and our price match guarantee. who

we've got navy s.e.a.l. edt teams which is naval special forces, salvage unit diving team. about 76 divers are on station. assuming even the divers can enter this labyrinth interior of this ship, how do you extract any possible survivors from the air pockets? it's an extraordinarily difficult operation for even the world's most skilled people. these south korean lads, you know, they're the nation's top people, these are naval commanders and so on, but whether or not they're up to the task of pulling survivors out of the ship, which it's 130-meter ship, from what we understand, the only part of the ship above water is a piece of bow protruding. the ship listed, capsized, then sank by the stern. so as far as we're aware, anyone who's alive is going to be pretty deep under water. i can't really see a good outcome at this point. of course, fingers are crossed and we're seeing enormous emotion understandably from the families who have lost children and family members in this tragedy which seems to be expanding in scope as the hours pass. >> it is really unbelievable. we remain a

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. >> take a navy s.e.a.l., a paramedic, that is a pararescueman. >> reporter: after spotting the family in the middle of the ocean, crews plunged into the water and boarded the sailboat. lira is safe. the kaufmans' extended family relieved. >> i'm glad they're alive and my niece is being taken care of. >> reporter: this morning the kaufmans and little lira remain out at sea with four members of the rescue team aboard their boat. after reaching this navy rescue ship, they'll begin their journey home. but for now this high drama out at sea is still underwa i. the rescue team aboard the kaufmans' sailboat is taking shifts to watch lira. she's said to be in good condition. the family could be back home in san diego as early as monday. erica? >> i can imagine they're looking forward to that. thanks. >>> we have an update this morning on the backlash over a multi-million-dollar mansion that the archbishop of atlanta calls home. the archbishop now says he's moving out and will sell that home that caused so much controversy within the church community. ron allen has more for us. >> reporter: fa

. >> if you were to take a navy s.e.a.l.ramedic and throw in a few more years of training, and that is a pararescueman. >> and this morning, the kaufman family with little lira is aboard the uss vandergriff who rescued them. for them, it began as a trip of a lifetime circumvent iing the globe with their children. >> you are totally soaked and there you go. >> reporter: after leaving puerto vallarta two and a half weeks ago, their sailboat rebel heart lost steering off of the coast. april 3rd, they sent a mayday, and the boat is crippled, and lira is ill. the boat reaches them in hours, but it takes three days for them to reach the family. sa rya english has spoken to her s sister on the phone. >> i am just calling to say i love you. >> she is responding well, and no longer a fever. she is doing great. they are all tired and a little bit of kind of in shock. >> reporter: a shocking end to a dream journey that still became the trip of a lifetime. this morning the family is defending themselves from the critics who say that the

i want to bring in former navy s.e.a.l. cade courtley.e only recovered bodies. it's a week now that this happened. how much longer could someone survive inside the ferry, if there was a possibility of air? >> okay, so the science behind the air pockets, if i'm in a room that is 10 feet by 10 feet, i will have about three days of oxygen to breathe. but that's not the problem. after about a day and a half, the carbon dioxide levels become poisonous to me. that's just me in a ten foot by ten foot, relatively calm. so you can see that doesn't paint a very pretty picture as far as a week later with that many people. you know, it's tough. >> even in larger space, there might have been more people in a larger space. do you think there would have been any possibility if in some gathering area, then more means of egress, right? less chance of it being airtight. >> right. >> do you think there could be some kind of a miracle? >> i got to be honest with you, i don't. i'm very optimistic person by nature. but i also used to be a team leader, and i as

"outfront" now, former navy s.e.a.l.erty, a retired captain with the merchant marines. great to have both of you with us. this ship now completely under water. it's been four days since the accident. they said the bow was sticking out of the water so that would mean that there is air pockets. now it's completely underwater. so people are saying gosh, are we crazy to hope that any of these 270 people are alive. you say no, it is not crazy to hope for miracles. >> it's a large ship there are a lot of people under there. and if they are able to accomplish three things to this point, number one, they survived any kind of an injury from either when it hit whatever it hit or capsized, number two, they're in an area where they have breathable air, and number three, they are able to get enough of their body. so hypothermia. if you're fully submerged, your body temperature goes down 25 times faster than you and i sitting here in the same temperature. but if they were able to get the majority of their body out of the water, so if

. >> it's interesting, we talked to a navy s.e.a.l. your core, below your waist, you could survive days of this water. really once it goes over your core you could have a problem. people out there say there's no chance, there could be a chance depending on the water level, but you've been in these situations. how difficult is it to get someone out from a capsized ship, so if you find someone who's alived, how do you get into that space, get them out, given it's underwater? >> well, the first thing you have to consider is are they ambulatory, able to walk, or seriously injured? my guess is they could be seriously injured, so now you're trying to not make their injury worse, so that's a big consideration trying to get somebody out. it's not easy. stretchers, divers are trying to make sure the person is comfortable and has enough oxygen. you're using a ton of resources to get these survivors out of the water, so there's a lot of things it can do, but it's not easy to get a survivor out, especially if they are injured. >> admiral, i would

the trial of a navy s.e.a.l. ended in his acquittal on the charges related to his death. that is the case in part because investigators concluded that the injuries that he suffered happened while he was in cia custody. in 2012 an investigation into the death as well as another detainee resulted in no charges being brought. however, the story of allegations of cia torture is being told again today in "the washington post." the article quotes unnamed officials who say they have seen a damning 163-page report. the officials say it details how the cia misled the nation regarding its interrogation methods. in some cases taking credit for intelligence gathered by standard fbi interrogation methods and crediting so-called enhanced interrogation instead. that includes the intelligence that led to the whereabouts and ultimately the killing of osama bin laden. the report also includes previously undisclosed cases of abuse as well as new disclosures about cia black sites where the torture is alleged to have taken place. it includes no recommendations for the pursuit of a criminal in

. >> members of the navy s.e.a.l.. as the sun comes up chile is getting a better idea of the damage from the quake. >> hundreds of thousands evacuated their homes. the quake damaged homes and businesses in northern chile and create add 6-foot tsunami in the pacific. watches were posted in hawaii but later were cancelled. >>> political donors can give to as many candidates and packs and political parties as they want. a maximum overall amount of contributions was set, and there are individual for individual candidates and organizations. >>> and then house members were told yesterday that she is sorry gm waited for years to fix the ignition problem blamed for 13 deaths. >>> fighting hard over the 50-billion a morning market. >>> the waffle taco. now mcdonald's is promising free coffee and starbucks is bringing breakfast foods back to its menu. good morning. >> good morning. >> how genius was that ronald mcdonald ad? >> it was a great ad. breakfast is a major growth area for fastball companies, and really one of the only

and i grew up working on charter boats as a kid before i joined the navy to be a s.e.a.l. i was about to test for my captain's license. but it just really seems from what i know of the time line and the captain who was on the bridge for 20 minutes and just didn't make a decision. and as a parent myself, you hear about the kids making the phone calls to their parents, it just seem s like indecision on the captain's part. >> because captain staples, there was time for at least evacuation or at least mustering. the ship didn't go down in a matter of minutes. >> without a doubt, there was plenty of time to get the life rafts deployed, which should have been done. and again, to have a young school child make a call before the seasoned captain, that should tell you something like that. that the captain was very indecisive. >> and is the captain going to see better than the diver? >> again, the limitation is not only because of lack of light but the amount of silt you have down there. but i applaud the use of this rov because you know, we have to be realistic. we're entering into

so navy divers, 174 guy, korea's best young man, s.e.a.l.under and into the submerged hull. whether anyone feasibly could be alived trapped in an air pocket, your guess is as good as mine. fingers are crossed. >> it's our understanding that this is a very, very busy waterway. this is a typical route. this was a ferry vessel, albeit a very big one, that was on the water. but as we can see right now, a very dangerous and urgent rescue operation happening as we speak. andrew, you've been on top of it all morning. thank you very, very much. chris? >>> kate, the good news is some of the vessel is still above t water, meaning that there's some air buoyancy there. quick moving currents, the situation is moving rapidly and it's difficult to get inside the ship to see if there's anyone to rescue. let's bring in former inspector general mary mary, ferries are not usually what you would be covering but you do have experience in what can happen in these type of situations. let's go through big points. we hear from on board that there was a big bump. the

navy seals. later, a panel discussion featuring howard ruston he wrote a book about s.e.a.l. team six. >> cryptology is an ancient art that goes back to the beginning of human history. we don't quite go back that far, but we do have some interesting artifacts that help people to understand just how long people have been making and breaking codes and the need for cryptology. when we talk about the united states, it is important to note that the making and breaking of codes as been a part of america even before we gain our independence. one of our most precious artifacts is referred to as the jefferson cypher device. now, truth in advertising, it is important to note that we don't have any definitive, conclusive evidence that this particular device belonged to thomas jefferson. but there are some interesting facts about it. one, this device was found in an antique store very close to monticello. it appears to have the ability to cypher french and english commander in of the jefferson, of course, was ambassador to france. probably the most compelling point is there is a of drawi

the united states navy has spent millions of dollars trying to discover how a navy s.e.a.l. is made, what makes some people succeed through basic training and what makes 70% of the people feel? they look at demographics and they looked at ethnicity and family back down. they looks at religion and they found that none of that mattered