as long as you have known each other, i heard you were sitting together in prison, i met comrade nayomanally in december, in december 1961 in dares salami, this is the capital of tanganika, then i saw him. the first time, more than 45 years ago , yes, indeed, hifikepunya pahamba, a member of the swapo party with its founding, he participated in the war for the liberation of namibia, with him i was imprisoned in wendhoek, on the orders of the south african aparthein regime, but pahamba did not my personal favorite. he was elected by an extraordinary congress of the swapo party. we have a democracy. our party lives by the laws democracy. namibia is also unique in that, unlike most african countries, where, unfortunately, power passes from one political force to another, as a rule, with violence. in namibia, the transfer of power was peaceful. and democratically , it is enough to say that president pahamba, back in 2005, adopted a law on a maximum of two presidential terms, and in 2015 transferred power to the president, our interlocutor today, who won the 2015 elections . the second gener