back with me, kayleigh mcenany, nayyera haq, jamie gangel. very senior members of the former bush administration. what have they been telling you? >> so i have to tell you they were not so concerned that this call took place. they say it's okay to ba little l unpredictable. he's president-elect, not president yet. that said, despite all this reporting that this was all planned out, they were not under the impression it was planned out and what they're concerned about is winging it. if there's a genuine strategy behind doing something like this, then that's one thing, but they were concerned that, you know, not just taiwan, when he spoke to the british prime minister, he said if you're ever in washington, come and see me. pakistan, you're fantastic. >> extraordinary. >> that's what they don't like. this needs to be a thoughtful process. >> so kayleigh, how close is trump toward what could be the most crucial decision here that we are awaiting, right? we understand he's very close to making a decision but he has greatly enjoyed the public parad

nayyera, go ahead. >> this is the unfortunate thing.ho have served in government, who have security clearances, have to go through extr tre vetting of our finances because there's actual security risk here. because of our financial dealings, what are we at risk for? there's a security issue. you don't get a clearance if there's a thought that somebody could either pay you off or use you or bribe you in some way. >> that's why he shut down the foundation. >> if i have to go through that, if i have to go through that, or junior-level staffers have to go through that, we expect trump and his family go through that as well. i mean, they are now public servants. they are not businessmen anymore. and this is -- >> no, the president-elect is the public servant. >> this is -- >> hold on. >> this is the challenge of changing from campaign and moving into government and anybody who wants to in the trump family who's planning to have a role in this administration -- >> even though, eric trump is not -- eric trump as far as we know right now is not

nayyera hoq. jamie beg jamie gangel is back. a real sense of the man, his oil roots, overseeing gays coming into the boy scouts. and climate change. he was ordered the kremlin's order of friendship, saw vladimir putin pin that on rex tillerson's jacket. >> heavyweig heavyweight, runs the third largest company in the world. he knows how to execute. and i think very, very importantly, he's been recommended by some people who command widespread respect. you know, as bob gates went in to see donald trump and said you really ought to take a look at tillerson. condi rice did the same thing. he's involved in the center for strategic and international studies in washington, d.c. they have great respect for him there. start out with the fact that people in his lane where he's been playing take him very seriously. >> right. >> having said that, you have to sort of also realize he is going to be asked, and i think he can do the big things. i mean, he can handle big projects and go in and do the big negotiations. there's no question he can