and the results have not been nearly as damaging as you might say and nazism was after world war ii -orld war i. but nevertheless i think that it contributes to the policy is that you see putin having carried out. i would go further and say that much of the economic advice given based on what george sorus as called free-market fundamentalism was probably bad advice and also the russians are grown up and they ran a been responsible for the ever advice they took, nevertheless the idea that you simply you could go immediately you to a free-market system by allowing insiders to steal as much as they could come i think sent a very bad precedent and although we are now responsible for it to our policies did encourage developments in russia which has produced a situation which is not in russia's interest nor hours at the present. >> guest: let me ask of the civic powerful question because it is hypothetical -- you cannot replace history and you do not know what would happen if we play our cards using russian differently. what would you say to an argument that if we are now so preoccupied wit

not trying to force it on others isn't the sense that nazism is doing. but believe in the ideology, the world would come to them because of the model state they have established. in doing so, they became a super military power. and they had clearly ideology opposition to what the united states stood for. and therefore, we would geopolitically opposed with them during the time frame. what kept that becoming the potential holocaust it could have been is because they were a nation state that wanted to preserve that nation state. and the policy of mutual destruction worked for both nations. that's the reality of it. i believe this period that we're in dealing with these transnational actors is a more dangerous period for us. because of what their intend is. and the means to achieve that intent. and even though they are not sitting there with a government and a head of state and police force that's self-evident and an army that's even more evident for us to deal with, they are danger and threat to us is significant. and it's not something that we should ever

excellent on that subject of authoritarianism so could you distinguish between fascism, authoritarianism, nazism and militarism may be in the context of alexander haig lieutenant colonel to the chief of staff at the nixon white house, the head of secretary of state. that's my question. >> guest: let me see if i can handle that for you. first of all, my whole study of authoritarianism is based on social science. in the aftermath of world war ii, a group of social scientists tried to get together to find out if what happened in italy and germany would never happen in the united states could we followed mussolini or hitler would we tolerate things like holocaust in this country and the sad answer was yes there is some segment of the population that has an offer tyrian personality. the book and the study was probably rightly criticized when it first came out because it was based largely on freudian psychology that has its own the problems. another record of social scientists particularly one who landed in the canada, robert altmire, decided to look up the question again, and doing get by rather soli

. >> host: it didn't necessarily mean accepting nazism? guest: it was just saying we cannot afford a war. and despite that, he still remained governor of the bank of england in large part because the whole sort of atmosphere change from giving central bankers enormous amounts of authority to basically the power had shifted to the treasuries. and, you know, by the mid to late '30s, power vested in the treasuries and central bankers had a very diminished status. >> host: uh-huh. >> guest: but, you know, out of all of them, if i had to have had dinner with one person, apart from keynes, i would have dinner with norman. >> host: an eccentric and charming. keynes emerges as keynes out of all this. talk a little bit about how that happens. we think of keynesian economics as being stimulative economics used in fiscal power. how did keynes go from being a sort of an interesting fringe character to becoming a central economic character -- or figure in economic history during this period? what did he do to assume that role? >> guest: pure intellect.

. >> cardinal of los angeles and catholic church said it is akin to nazism.se on the right who need to close the borders. we will talk to a sheriff who deals with this specifically. he will be up in the next block. >> critics claim that you are putting pressure on the police force to do this. basically become immigration officials. >> you are putting them in a specific spot. the plose chiefs said we don't want this. it puts our officers in a weird position . certain low a debate that will continue. we'll talk to that sheriff, coming up. >> from arizona to arkansas. senator branch lincoln considered one of the most vulnerable senators is facing a pierce primary challenge from two candidates. ment three squared off in a debate in little block and this is where our good friend james rosen in. it is good to have you in here bright and early. >> don't give me that, you know where to me if you want me. >> we couldn't find me. >> what is going on down there? >> it is all forgiven and forgotten and greetings from little rock, arkansas. it was not exactly lincoln doug

the world for the next century or generations -- so its standing against zionism, basically what nazism was, after great cleansing christians and muslim palestinians from palestine to retain a jewish majority. host: are you from iran originally? caller: no, sir. this is from global research -- 2004, south korea was found to have 77% of enriched uranium and iran had 3.5% -- iaea inspection. you can see that the only reason -- it is not about nuclear weapons or developing nuclear weapons but against -- a stand against zionism. the u.s. should stand against zionism if it wants to rule the world for the next 40 years. host: addison from front royal, virginia, on the democrat's line. caller: yes. what people need to do is look in the bible and it tells you what is going to happen, ezekiel 38 and 39, it tells you exactly what is going to happen. host: 10 more minutes of your calls. venezuela -- china's $20 billion bolster of chavez. inside i will show you a little bit of the article of where the money is going toward venezuela. china bolsters hugo chavez with a credit of $20 billion -- and a