our well-connected friends in the entertainment industry have suggested all kinds of tweaks to the nca that would pose a kinds of liability issues for websites. yes, they have tried, and it has not worked. i'm a little more interested in how we can use laws already on the books, the prosecutors can already go to court with to make life is painful and expensive as possible for the people who went after these ipod users and other like-minded creeps. >> i just wanted to build out a little bit on the section 230 point, to give an example of why, you know, those of us who are such staunch defenders of that law -- what role it really plays. imagine we take a person or website operator who knows or should have known this website -- this photo was shared without consent. if we had a law that said, you know, imagine i run my own photo hosting website. a created what i hope will be the next instagram. i get something way better than filters for photos. i don't know what it is, but i'm running my own site. a law on the book says i can be taken to court if someone claims that i know or should have

be true in many contacts in many contexts and when we can take that we've discussed already is the ncaoticed taedown has been going on for some time. many people were convinced when it was passed in which at the internet down. it looks like the internet is doing okay in light of the fact it is a powerful tool to get people to stop saying there ain't been expressing themselves. same thing true for child porn lost and gambling laws and frankly the same thing is true about trade secrets, identity pass, voyeurism. all kinds of situations in which we have for some time accepted the fact that disclosures of lawful information can be criminalized. if we think about the identity theft contacts, none of us want to be criinalized for having a credit card number and we are not. if someone takes the information and uses that an unauthorized way, we say that's criminal. this is not novel. the only thing here that is not novel is we do what they conduct primarily directed at women and we try to treat at the same as we would treat other types of sensitive information and perhaps we are resistant to g