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it'll also include border force and there will be 100 dedicated nca, nca officers actually doing theying to break the gangs. >> they can't recruit anybody. >> they can't recruit anybody. >> well, i mean, this is this is the question that labour have got to sort out because they've got to sort out because they've got to sort out because they've got to recruit those 100 people to be able to do that job. that's what they promised in the manifesto and that's what they've got to achieve. >> but it's saying here they're short of key staff in mission critical areas, don't you think that if the nca was a central plank of smashing the gangs , plank of smashing the gangs, they might have thought this through and got this shipshape before now? >> well , i before now? >> well, i don't before now? >> well , i don't know if the if >> well, i don't know if the if labour knew before they won the election that the nca was in this mess. the important thing is to i mean, this government has criticised a lot about pubuc has criticised a lot about public sector pay, but in this particular case, one of th

and that's exactly why the nca was so ill suhed exactly why the nca was so ill suited to , human traffickingf prosecutions and arrests in relation to this in the last few years. it's got a whole purview of other issues that needs to be tackling. and, you know, yvette cooper directing staff away from drug trafficking, which is a huge , trafficking, which is a huge, huge problem in the country, is doing a disservice whilst not actually solving another another problem that's purporting to. so i think the labour party have got themselves in a huge mess with this. >> okay. rob bates, thank you very much. we're going to have to leave it there. just to recap on some of the details. they're just astonishing, there's a seriously hampered ability to tackle 70 active investigations. the brain drain means that 25% of the senior roles aren't even filled. 9% of posts aren't being replaced. they lose more staff than they get in the national crime agency, which is meant to be the a list for solving this, feels precisely z—list at the moment, and it warns the final pay moment, and it warns the final pay off

not all of them have cooperated with the nca, but it's undoubtedly the case that the nca, britain's fbifor that harrowing but vital report and i pray they get the resolution and peace they deserve tomorrow at that trial sentencing. thank you very much. charlie peters there from sheffield crown court. that's a harrowing way to end the show. but i think you agree their stories must be told. up next is dewbs& co. but first here's your weather. thank you. have a great evening . evening. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news >> hello. good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news. weather update. still a cold feel for the next day or so, but it will turn warmer into the weekend and it will also become much drier across western areas as high pressure is building in for the end of the week from the west. we've still got this northerly wind though, bringing in arctic air for many areas through this evening, as well as a few showers inland at first. but overnight they will become more and more restricted to just the east coast, as well as just the east

this is partnered with the u.k., nca, europepol and they couldn't have been done without the partnerships, and probably not at all the way it's done. i think there's a recognition across all the agencies involved and country to country that we need to continue to build these trusted partnerships and share intelligence and information, expertise and skills with each other to be the most effective we can be against this threat. >> some imposing costs and consequence on cyber criminals. >> yes, big time. >> fantastic work and the private sector, of course, also factors in, you mentioned that previously earlier. how do you work with them. microsoft is thankful for the partnership and close work against cyber crime. whether it's nation state efforts, or cyber crime. . how do you see it affected into the cyber crime. >> there's so many aspects and again, couldn't be done without that partnership. and you know, government, international private sector others as well i think again in the private sector, there's been a recognition, especially in recent years, one private sector u.s. industry holds

in fact, the nca is so concerned about this they've spoken to the coroner's office to say that in casesp onjust how many victims are out there, because until now, this criminality has fallen under a number of other offences, mostly blackmail, but also cyber crime, child abuse. but that is about to change. such is the scale of this issue, the nca is about to start identifying this as a crime in its own right. it'll be called financially motivated sexual exploitation and given its own crime code. only with that code will they be able to track how widespread this is. your concern, though, is even with a new crime code, the information you get back will probably be the tip of the iceberg because people are so reluctant to report these crimes. yeah, i'm sad to say i think that is probably true. people think they'll pay an amount of money and these people will go away. unfortunately, that's not our experience. disengage with these people online, don't be drawn into them. if they've asked for money, don't pay it. you'll end up paying more and more and more and this threat won't go away, sadly.

the nca was expected to play earlier.r starmer's plan to smash the people smuggling gangs and tackle the small boats crisis . tackle the small boats crisis. but with reports of apparently unprecedented brain drain and significant lack of investment, the prime minister's plan is tonight lying in tatters. meanwhile, the government can't even come clean. this is important. they can't even come clean about where illegal migrants that keep crossing the channel on a daily basis will actually be housed . actually be housed. >> give you some ground on this, let's say marshalling that effort across government so that we can actually make it work. asylum seeker is approved. where does that individual go? would it be in a council house? >> well, arrangements will have to be made to accommodate people who successfully are processed through the asylum arrangements . through the asylum arrangements. >> yes. it's quite astonishing, really. isn't it? so, you know, in order to smash the gangs, which keir starmer kept telling us was one of

a human error, as i said , and as the nca error, as i said, and as the nca put it, but still very distressingvivors, told me today that it's difficult for survivors to get over moments like this when they're let down by the system. and she said that all too often, this process is about procedure and systems, and the victims are not at the heart of it. and that's what's happened at sheffield crown court. and it comes just a couple of weeks after we revealed another story from sheffield crown court, where a victim impact statement was censored by a judge. a woman who had waited two decades to say what she wanted to say to her abusers, to face them down as they were jailed for more than 100 years. that was censored in the same court two weeks ago. so a couple of bad stories for the operation stovewood national crime agency team, who achieved great success in tackling child abuse. but i've had a couple of bad headlines recently, is this neil king, who was sentenced as he linked to the wider grooming gang scandal in rotherham? so he's under the operation stovewood investigation, so he's one of the

the nca told us this should not have happened and will soon issue new guidance for all forces.re trying to take the stigma out of it, really, and tell victims directly, get some help, get some support. it's not your fault. many, many people have fallen for this, sadly. come to us and we can help. that was jayne mccubbin reporting there. if you have been affected by any of the issues raised, information and support is available via the bbc�*s action line. let's take a look at today's papers. almost all of them focus on the findings of lord darzi's review of the nhs in england. the telegraph calls the report "damning", saying it found nhs hospitals are doing less work for patients despite receiving more money than ever. the mirror says the prime minister will unveil a 10—year plan to reform the health service. according to the paper, the review also exposes a "shocking deterioration in the nation's health". the guardian leads on the darzi report, but also features the news that there will be an independent public inquiry into the murder of the belfast solicitor pat finucane in 19

the labour's defence, the government has said that they will be they'll be increasing the number of ncan interpol by 50%. there will be a rise. they've also pointed to covert operations globally by m15 and associated institutions. labour are saying that they're going to put their border security command not on a national footing, but on an international. >> is that also going on? >> is that also going on? >> is that once they get someone to run it because they've got everybody in it? >> exactly. border force are going, i mean, come on. >> no. but actually the other thing, they're doing, which angela eagle is, is, is they're processing these people who are in hotels who should not be in hotels, right? they should be processed. they should either be refugees or we should be putting them back. >> so it's a dispersal thing, isn't it? so they're dispersing them. but my problem is this , them. but my problem is this, that that's all very well. but you don't know who you're dispersing. you don't know enough about them and dispersing them in communities. and as we know in certain areas, there's

vulnerable, and using drugs and alcohol, exploited them for their own sexual gratification and the ncawho were brave enough to come forward and tell their stories and confront their abusers. that confrontation we saw yesterday, the nca added what happened to them can never be undone, but i hope the sentences handed down give them some closure and make them feel as though justice has been done well. >> charlie peters, thank you for that moving report. >> we'll be back with you of course, later in the program as well. i'm looking forward to heanng well. i'm looking forward to hearing more from some of those victims. it's a it's a truly shocking story, and i'm glad that some justice has been done today. >> it's hard to listen to those that that report actually just to think of all of those girls who were treated just so despicably for so many years. and now to see that justice has been served, at least for these seven men that are going down for 106 years in total , yeah. for 106 years in total, yeah. appalling to be let down by so many adults at such a young age. you know, the various in

. >> yeah, i think the nca will be, you know, somewhat surprised if there's any suggestion they haven'ting on this issue for some time along with other police forces and border force. and, you know, when we heard about the new border security command, i think some people said, well, that sounds very much like a small boats operational command. in fact, when you put suella braverman's statement announcing the small boats operational command against yvette cooper's announcing her border command, they're almost identical. it just sums things up. so this idea that, yes , of course we idea that, yes, of course we need criminal prosecution, but it's only part of the solution. it's not going to provide, you know, some sort of magic bullet outcome to an incident where, as we touch on, people are losing their lives. >> and of course, the government that you were a member of wanted this two pronged approach where you crack down on the gangs on the one hand, and on the other you have a deterrent as well. it seems now that that deterrent has been thrown away with nothing to replace it. and we sort

the nca says.s sizes. a 23 year old lorry driver has been arrested as investigations continue. the wife of disgraced tv star rolf harris has died at the age of 93, a year after her husband's death. olwyn hughes, who had been suffering from alzheimer's, stood by harris throughout his jail term for child sex offences. the couple were married for 65 years and despite her husband's scandal, she attended every day of rolf harris trial in 2014 alongside their daughter bindi and billionaire jared isaacman and crewmate sarah gillies have completed the first ever commercial spacewalk. the pair floated out from their dragon space capsule 400 miles above earth, using experimental spacesuits. the privately funded mission made them the first to take a cosmic stroll without being professional astronauts . being professional astronauts. those are the latest gb news headunes those are the latest gb news headlines for now. i'll be back with you at 3:00 for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up

the nca investigation has found some 1150 victims that they've identified.ny will be hearing that and saying, that's not enough. and i spoke to another survivor of the town's horrific abuse last night, who told me that so many people have still avoided justice, but some justice has been delivered here and it's been delivered here and it's been delivered here and it's been delivered by that national crime agency investigation. they won't launch any new probes this yeah won't launch any new probes this year. this is the end of operation stovewood. but there are still many ongoing investigations that the nca will continue to pursue. well, yesterday, all seven defendants in the dock looked down and looked to the side or looked to their friends and family in the pubuc their friends and family in the public gallery as the victim impact statement was delivered directly to them by that survivor. another victim from this case. they were aged just 11 and 15 when the abuse started. another survivor in the case, she also had a victim impact statement read out by a prose

on the back of some campaigning from this channel after an investigative documentary, she launched a ncagangs task force, which was a brave thing to do. it's arrested over 550 people in its first yean over 550 people in its first year, trained up hundreds of officers. she also wants to see more action. when i spoke to the home office about this last night, they said they won't comment on individual cases. >> i'm absolutely lost for words. charlie peters, we're going to continue this conversation throughout the rest of the show. again, brilliant work. thank you for trying to do your bit to hold these people to justice. let's continue this conversation now with the immigration barrister, paul turner, who joins us now down the line. paul, welcome to the show. you must have overheard that. i'm simply astonished . that. i'm simply astonished. i've been covering these stories for a long time myself. charlie peters also to learn nobody has been deported for any of these cases. we know it's not racist to say the facts of the matter is, the vast majority of these grooming gang perpetrators are br

now, the nca told me that they have personally apologised to both of those survivors .of those survivors. they're going to do further. they're going to do further. they're going to do further. they're going to write to them as well. and as i understand it, a judge who was involved in that sentencing last friday did sit this morning to allow those survivors to come back to the court after they were missed last week to apologise to them and also to pay respect to their tributes for their efforts in the trial, to achieve this justice that has been delivered. >> okay, charlie. well justice that has been delivered. >> oabuser,1rlie. well justice that has been delivered. >> oabuser, sent well justice that has been delivered. >> oabuser, sent tozll justice that has been delivered. >> oabuser, sent to prison , their abuser, sent to prison, >> now, as charlie has just said, and charlie's done a great job constantly shining the spotlight on not only the failures about grooming gang survivors, but about the system, that we have in our country, which is really, in so many ways unfi

perspective, suella braverman last night told me the former home secretary, who brought in a grooming gangs nca year on the back of some campaigning we did at this channel. she also said that foreign, national offenders in grooming gangs needed to be deported. lee anderson, the reform mp for ashfield, also sharing that perspective. there is a growing momentum on this when i reached the home office last night, they told me they wouldn't comment on individual cases. i've also not heard from any government mps for their perspective on this case. one other thing i'd like to add on this issue under the nationality and borders act of 2022, brought in by the last government, it has powers to punish any country that refuses to accept their foreign nationals being deported foreign nationals being deported for crimes. they can apply visa penalties now. compelling sources in government have told me that the foreign office has always blocked that being applied, but it is a power we could use to pakistan and other such countries. related to this scandal in particular, to say if you don't take back your rapi

but today a damning report claims that the nca is on its knees with its it systems creaking and with

then you've got the crown prosecution service, you've got the nca represented as well.'ve got the police represented too. and they discussed the moral imperative of smashing the gangs. but discussion doesn't really go far enough, as you say, 7000 or 8000 migrants since labour became came into powerjust in july and 22,000 already this year. came into powerjust in july and 22,000 already this year . the 22,000 already this year. the labour party obviously decided to throw out the rwanda plan wholesale as soon as it came into power in july, and that decision is coming under a pretty harsh spotlight at the moment because the german government , the new german government, the new german government, the new german government, has suggested that it might use the facilities which have been paid for by british taxpayers in rwanda, which have now been abandoned by britain to house their own asylum seekers who have come illegally to germany. now it's a little bit different because the british plan was to send migrants to rwanda indefinitely. they wouldn't have a chance of coming b

the nca and police and had told us this is not a crime you can arrest your way out of.l hopefully deter others going down this route.— will hopefully deter others going down this route. ., ,, , ., , . down this route. thank you very much indeed. down this route. thank you very much indeed- chief— down this route. thank you very much indeed. chief technology _ down this route. thank you very much indeed. chief technology officer i down this route. thank you very much indeed. chief technology officer of i indeed. chief technology officer of the internet watch foundation. you can watch more on huw edwards' case in a documentary, huw edwards: fall from grace, which is available on bbc iplayer now. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. a very good morning. welcome to bbc london. i'm thomas magill. the parents of a group of deaf children have criticised a school in east london for what they say is a failure to support their children's special needs. they attend culloden primary in poplar, which has 28 children who are deaf. but the school doesn't have an