how many of these do you think will come back from various districts and various ncds. you have any idea? >> i haven't heard of any. this is one -- the first part was inadvertently. we did go through the specific targeted controls in the neighborhood districts and tried to adopt new policies, new definitions to this and missed this one. just didn't understand the consequences of it. >> i guess i don't like the word inadvertent because i didn't vote on this with an inadvertent thought. it was in front of us, we understood what it meant and would apply to all ncds in the city. if we -- we didn't get individual testimony from ncds, i don't think, maybe we did, about restricting, you know, their own individual areas. so the whole intent of the ordinance seemed to be to drive toward less conditional uses, more liberalization, or whatever, to apply to the city. now we will get bunchs of ncds saying, oh, we didn't think of that and want to reinstate the old controls. if we want to reinstate old controls, why did we pass this? the first place? >> when i say inadvertently, that

i know that the supervisor mentioned this is lower fillmore, but it is actually called the fillmore ncd, not the lower fillmore, so i want to make that distinction. because there is an upper fillmore, but this is the fillmore. but we are hoping to try to start that process up. and this is like i said, well, we anticipate this to be at least through october to really start having neighbor and means around this issue. but if it seems like there is much more important, we are open to extending it, there not a deadline that is pushing this, it is really just to get the best community planning. and zoning and small business synergy going in each of these corridors. >> thank you. >> commissioner white. >> yes, i just wanted to say that i think that this is great. i just wanted to deal with commissioner dooley mentioned about the out reach and making sure that we do that so that we don't have any back lashes. and also, making sure that we get the name correct on these ncs. >> thank you. >> director? >> i have a question for ann marie, rogers. >> so i know that the planning staff has taken an i

appellant did indicate that he will file an appeal on the ncd permit itself when and if it is issued by the city. commissioners, thank you. >> there was no historic preservation commission hearing yesterday. and will put you under general public comment section of your agenda. at this time members of the public may address the commission on items of interest to the public that are within the jurisdiction of the commission except agenda items. with respect to agenda items your opportunity to address the commission will be afforded when the item is reached in the meeting. each member of the public may address the commission for up to three minutes. there is a 15 minute maximum for this part of the agenda. i have no it speaker cards. >> president fong: is there any financial publiany general ? okay. come on up. >> hi, commissioners. i was here last -- >> president fong: could you state your name for the record. >> christy -- regarding 611 bena vista west. i was just asking for clarification, because i have -- what was agreed upon was a setback for the third floor. and it was drawn on a

be a contentious issue in many of our neighbors and especially neighborhood commercial districts or ncd, particularly with pet food and pet food supply stores. and national restaurant chains like subway and starbucks. of the 31 formula retail conditional use cases between november 2007 and july of 2011, 71% of these formula retail business were eventually approved by the planning commission. the planning staff also verified that the planning commission approved most applications despite the supposed barriers in place. for example, prop g, the formula retail ordinance. the planning department received about 31 formula retail applications since 2007. so that is 31 since 2007. and only three of the applications have been rejected. so that is almost all of them approved. new data for 2011 and 2012 show that a continued increase in formula retail stores encroachment into is san francisco is verified as well. he wanted to thank the budget and legislative analyst's hard work on this report and look forward to explaining the methodologies. so with that, colleagues, i would like to introduce fre

while superviser wiener's legislation has done a lot of great thing but i am a firm believer that the ncd should have control over the destiny of their neighborhoods and so i am completely supportive. >> thank you. >> any other commissioners? >> do we have public comment on item 7? seeing none, public comment on item seven is closed. do we have commissioner obrien? >> i move to support it. especially since we have... on the neighborhood commercial district and why would we even need to go against the will of the people really? it is universal? so we would like to make a motion that we approve this as proposed. >> i will second it. >> roll call? >> commissioners, there is a motion made by commissioner obrian to recommend oproval to the supervisors, 120773. seconded by rilely, on that motion commissioner adams? >> aye. >> dooley? >> yes. >> dwight? >> o'brien >> yes. >> white? >> yes. >> rilely, aye,. >> the motion passed 6-0. >> great, thank you. >> next item. next president would you like to call the next two items together? >> yes, i would call to item 8 and 9 together. >> commissioners,

therefore since bars were prohibited in the union street ncd, restaurants could not obtain a new liquorse. the new definition allowed them to have a liquor license as as along as they operated a bona fide eating establishment. we agreed with them and they fought long and hard for the controls and they are working well in the corridor we want to thank supervisor wiener for his cosponsorship. this did pass 6-1 at the planning commission and unanimously at the small business commission last monday. we do have a minor amendment to offer. i have those here today. it basically strikes out the word "limited restaurants," when it's talking about the liquor license control because you know in limited restaurants they don't allow for liquor. i have those amendments. if you could offer up that. it's line 24, page 11, to page 12; line 2. >> thank you. >> so with that, that is the original. >> maybe i will pass this around,. >> and i'm available for questions and anne marie rogers is here with the planning department as well. >> may i look at it? >> supervisor cohen would like to review? >> thank yo

while superviser wiener's legislation has done a lot of great thing but i am a firm believer that the ncd should have control over the destiny of their neighborhoods and so i am completely supportive. >> thank you. >> any other commissioners? >> do we have public comment on item 7? seeing none, public commt on item seven is closed. do we have commissioner obrien? >> i move to support it. especially since we have... on the neighborhood commercial district and why would we even need to go against the will of the people really? it is universal? so we would like to make a motion that we approve this as proposed. >> i will second it. >>

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