national center known as ncetar, these two national assets will help law enforcement officials deal with the growing threat posed by terrorists in criminal use of powerful explosives. you and i have discussed these facilities previously. i believe you agreed then with me that the missions of ncetar and tedac are distinct but complimentary and that it made sense to co-locate them at red stone where there's a lot of property, a lot of land. for the benefit of the committee, mr. attorney general, can you describe how the department. of justice will utilize ncetar and tedac. >> -- run chiefly by the fbi deals with the examination of ieds we see coming out of afghanistan and other places. ncetar in contrast run by the atf deals with -- i wouldn't want to call them the more common. >> more prevalent maybe. >> more prevalent explosive devices. and i think that you're right, they you're right. they have fundamentally different responsibilities, but they compliment one another. and the location of them in that place i think makes a great deal of sense. could you describe the value of co-loca

of justice will utilize ncetar and tedac. deals with the examination of afghanistan and other places. atf deals with -- i wouldn't want to call them the more common. >> more prevalent explosive devices. and i think that you're right, they you're right. they have fundamentally different responsibilities but her. and the location of them in that place i think makes a great deal of sense. could you describe the value of co-locating these facilities on a large federal arsenal with lots of range of space? >> yeah. >> there's a great deal of cross pollenation, the ability to talk to one other. although the purposes are distinct there are certainlygs breakthroughs perhaps that you can exchange information by having people who are relatively close by.cies that are primarily responsible for explosives determination and prevention and having them close by even though they have distinct r. it's good to have them there and talking to one another. >> also, you're aware of this, there near red stone has one of the highestof smart people th