certainly the ncijtf is one of them. i think perhaps one of the most important of them. also every one of our 56 field offices have cyber squads in which those individuals are doing cyber work. now, there are intrusions and there are cases -- innocent image cases quite obviously that fall within that. i would say as we grow, the intrusions are perhaps more important. you hate to say, that but more important, need a different skill, need a different effort. my discussions with our people is that this is -- we have to reorient the bureau to address signer in the same way we reoriented the bureau to address counterterrorism. that means beefing up our cyber squads, making them task forces. in case you do know where the cyber intrusion is going to occur, you need to do the forensics in order to start the evaluation of at bution, much less the criminal case. consequently it has to be distributed across the country, the expertise has to be distributed across the country. now, it takes more of a headquarters role because inevitably in most of those, whether it abbott net or what

intelligence committee, from my viewpoint on this committee, from going out, seeing your folks in action at ncijtf, from looking at some of the cases that have been put together, i am very impressed with the ability and the dedication of the forces that you have deployed against our cyber threat. what i'm concerned about is not their ability, it's their adequacy. it's the quantity, not the quality. i think you run some very, very high-quality folks and i appreciate that. i went out on a limb about two years ago and said that i thought the theft of american intellectual property across our cyber networks was the biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the human species through the theft and piracy and we were on the losing end of it and we weren't taking enough action to defend against it. and since then, general alexander has said virtually the same thing. he's the head of cyber command and the head of nsa. and private sector observers like the latest mccaffee report have again used almost the same language. so here we are, assuming that to be true, on the losing end of the biggest transfer o