less than 12 hours from now, we will have the nctc, this is a group set up after 9/11 to assess the threat and the credibility of those threats, aimed at the united states. they will be briefing number members of the house intelligence committee in the morning. we anticipate the senate intelligence committee this afternoon. the speed at which the brief gs gs -- briefings are taking place, suggests that the investigation is hot and ongoing. >> analysts and those who have worked in the anti-terrorism field over the years... often categorize these things based on the initial markings. so many experts with whom i have spoken this evening and this afternoon suggested that this has certain hallmarks, none of which are for a large, organized sort of group. that basically what you are hearing as well? >> reporter: well, i think you are referring to really two markers that we're hearing discussed broadly. one is the timing of the devices, the fact that there were two nearly simultaneously explosions. that is called a mark or a hallmark of air terrorist attack. we had the first explosion and what we

you have the nctc, national counterterrorism center, agencies looking for potential threat streams, peopleing they did it on the internet. they're doing their thing. they then -- and the domestic side. the fbi has a big domestic role, department of homeland security, where i used to work, department of justice, you may have people involved at transportation. and then they all meet at the cabinet secretaries and deputies meet depending on what size meeting with the president to say here's where we are now. the president convenes to show he is leading this -- which is important -- the american public needs to see it. also make sure the government is talking in one voice. it's very important right now that you don't have cabinet members going off saying their own thing. you want to be on message with what the president's message is, which is as he said an hour ago, the investigation is going to take longer than the response. and so all of the speculation about an interview here or a saudi woman there is really just that, speculation. that's what's going. and he's got his counterterrorism team

just to kind of lay out some of the data points, we had information earlier today that the nctc feltome of the video and images that had been providing leading up to the attack and then we had confirmation that there was at least one image possessed by the feds that had a young man with a backpack that may have been dropping it off at the blast site. so you start connecting these things and there is a certain amount of expectation. i can't speak for why some sources involved in the investigation indicated there was an arrest. but that is apparently not the case. >> neil: i know you're a modest person, but your reporting has been amazing. >> it's very kind of you. thank you. >> neil: no, thank you very much. catherine herridge, has connections like nobody, incredible. allall right. who better than that guy, because that guy is next ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] help brazil reduce its overall reliance on foreign imports with the launch of the country's largest petrochemical operation. ♪ when emerson takes up the challenge, "it's never been done before" simply bemes consider it solved. emerson

congressional sources told fox news that during a briefing by the national counterterrorism center or nctchat's the group set up after 9-11 to monitor and analyze threats and to break down the barriers between agency, they told people on the hill that the video and images they had received prior to the attack were providing very useful intelligence, bill. >> bill: wow. interesting, thank you. catherine herridge on that and perhaps much more on what geraldo rivera reporting reflected in the f.b.i. briefing that's an hour and 20 minutes away. 5:00 o'clock eastern time. with me now out of washington, special report anchor, bret baier. i thought it was remarkable the amount of caution that jay carney stuck with today around the 12:00 o'clock hour. he referred a lot of these questions directly to the f.b.i what struck you? >> sure, there is a lot of caution because there are not a lot of answers. we saw what happened today earlier from sourcing there out of boston. the pushback really came from washington here, the department of justice and up on capitol hill sourcing that we had that said righ

a final point, we just had confirmation in the last few minutes that the fbi, as well as the nctc, this is the national counter terrorism center, this is the group that was created after 9/11 to monitor threats against the united states will be briefing members of the house intelligence committee as early as tomorrow. so what that timing tells you, shep from, my experience, is that this thing is really on fire, this is a pressing active investigation. if their gonna have hearings on the hill as early as tomorrow morning, shep. >> shepard: catherine, just for clarity, is it proper to say that in the early going, from your reporting, we don't know whether this was some sort of terrorist organization -- >> -- that's correct. >> shepard: weather -- whether it was one person with a beef with a local issue in boston. frankly at this moment we know there was an act of terror because we can look it up in the dictionary and this fits the definition but we don't know whether quote terrorists were involved. >> the definition of terrorism is an act of violence to promote a political end. what is no

think another key development is that there is going to be a briefing on capitol hill tomorrow by the nctc. that's the national terrorism center set up after 9/11 to assess and monitor the threats against the united states. we anticipate that will happen fairly early tomorrow morning here in washington, first with the house intelligence committee and after that the senate intelligence committee. as you know, late today the chairman of that committee, senator dianne feinstein, she believed boston was an act of terrorism. the third development comes from the head of the homeland security committee, republican congressman mike mccall, who has been briefed on the investigation. he told fox earlier today he had an initial reporting there was shrapnel, ball barges, incorporated into the devices. that's more evidence they were designed to cause mass casualties in boston today, greta. >> the saudi national that they were their attention on, you cut out on me a little bit in the beginning, is this the person who is burned in the hospital or is this somebody different? >> this was simply described t

the two dozen plus data bases were all could you pleaser terrorism data resides, feed into the nctc. so there is no doubt in my mine the information was shared. the question still is, was there any additional information, either identified in the government data bases after this that would have been relevant or was there information the russians either had or could have found that had we known that, would have allowed the fbi to take next step? based on what we know so far, the answer is no. >> and based on the fact that tsarnaevs lived in boston, do you think that information would have been shared with the bpd, for example? >> it would have. through the join terrorism task forceful so every major metropolitan area has a jttf. it is led by the fbi. all the relevant state and local actor have a spot there. they see a lot of the information. now certainly there are classification issues. you can discover secret information. if it is top secret, then there are other procedures in place. we're looking at information sharing for a lot of people for the first time in a number of years. an

think another key development is that there is going to be a briefing on capitol hill tomorrow by the nctc. that's the national terrorism center set up after 9/11 to assess and monitor the threats against the united states. we anticipate that will happen fairly early tomorrow morning here in washington, first with the house intelligence committee and after that the senate intelligence committee. as you know, late today the chairman of that committee, senator dianne feinstein, she believed boston was an act of terrorism. the third development comes from the head of the homeland security committee, republican congressman mike mccall, who has been briefed on the investigation. he told fox earlier today he had an initial reporting there was shrapnel, ball barges, incorporated into the devices. that's more evidence they were designed to cause mass casualties in boston today, greta. >> the saudi national that they were their attention on, you cut out on me a little bit in the beginning, is this the person who is burned in the hospital or is this somebody different? >> this was simply described t

the information we have is that the nctc, this is a group created after 9/11 to monitor and assess threats against the united states, will be briefing members of congress tomorrow morning. first it will be the house intelligence committee and then we anticipate the senate intelligence committee in the afternoon. as you know late today the chair of that committee, democrat dianne feinstein has come out and called it an act of terrorism in boston. this is fluent at this point. i was told by a source familiar with the investigation that they believe between two and five unexploded devices have been discovered in connection to what happened to boston earlier today and that's pretty consistent also with what the "wall street journal" is reporting earlier this evening. we 130 to congressman mike mccall, who has been briefed on the investigation, and he said he was getting initial reporting that shrapnel had been identified in the devices, and in this case specifically ball bearings. this is more evidence to show that the devices were designed to create a maximum number of casualties and also inj

that's run against all law enforcement holdings and also the holdings of the nctc and also virtually every d.o.d. holding. second point in the process, they submit to a full scale interview. at that point -- and this could be several hours. t's usually accompanied by affidavits, other supporting documentation. one of the things we do there, by the which, is we fingerprint the individual to make sure it's the same individual who originally presented. so we have identity verification. we again vet. we run through all the databases and so forth. after the prngs to the asylum -- presentation to the asylum fficer, there is supervisory to the asylum officer. they look at country conditions, other things we gather. after a year you can convert to l.p.r. status, green card status. at that point you're vetted yet again, run against all the law enforcement databases, all the nctc databases and so forth. after five years, you can apply for naturalization. at that point you're vetted again and you're reinterviewed again. and lastly, if you're granted naturalization between then and the actual ce

get briefed about the specific tell against and the -- intelligence and the specific details by the nctcerterrorism center. those briefings were abruptly canceled late yesterday afternoon as well. so there was, it was canceled across the board. they're holding things close to the vest. that is a bit inside baseball but you can see they're trying to get to the bottom of it and hopefully we'll hear where a lot of this investigation is going now. patti ann, i just want to say this interfaith service starts at 11. the president likely speaks at 11:45. it is called healing our city at the cathedral of the holy cost. you know, this is this is the fourth time the president has done these types of services maybe more. obviously most recently in newtown. but you had tucson, aurora, fort hood. he will offer, reflection and condolences to the family. we'll hear from cardinal sean o'malley, with the archdiocese of boston. and as you look there, the service gets ready, it will be, obviously an emotional event. the president as consoler in chief has done this many times and credited with comforting a

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developments is that we were anticipating a briefing on capitol hill, a closed door briefing from the nctconal counterterrorism center, the group that was set up after 9/11 to assess the threats and monitor the threats against the united states and break down that stove piping that lead to 9/11. we've been given no explanation at this time for why it was abruptly canceled. at the news conference a short time ago in boston they would neither confirm or deny they had someone in custody or whether there were people of interest in the lead they are lung down. fox news is told from federal sources there is one person of interest, a saudi national. the date of birth is 3-12-93. they were here on a student advice a. this information was circulate towed capitol hill last evening. fox newsletters was fold that there were no hits on the terrorism watch list for this individual, but that immigration and customs enforcement, that's the division of homeland security is actively running down whether he was in compliance with his student visa in this country. in other words, whether he was actually enrol

reporter: well, the wealth of information we received here seems to be coming out of this briefing by the nctcnterterrorism center. for viewers not familiar with the group, it was set up after 9/11 to monitor and analyze threats against the united states, to share the information and to try and avoid the stove piping that led to 9/11. the bottom line or to bottom line it for you. you, it was clear in the briefing the imperative is to take the second suspect alive. that's an imperative because they need to understand whether these young men are what i would call true home grown jihaddists who have taken their inspiration from the web or whether there is indeed an sw international connection, international training and direction from an international terrorist operation. we have a little bit more information about the travel of the elder brother. we were told that once they were identified, the electronic traffic associated with them has been scrubbed or is being scrubbed as well as the travel records, and that the older brother was out of the country for a prolonged period in early 2012 with a

i recently met with -- along with the deputy of the nctc, national counterterrorism center, with a representative from the combating terrorism center at the united states military academy at west point, about what we could do to move out -- move ahead on declassifying these captured about ts since there was 17 documents totaling 300 pages released immediately to this organization, and i do think there is a good call, a good reason for us to declassify to the extent we can, we don't in any way justify current operations, current -- u.s. intelligence operations or sources or methods, and to make this available more widely for academic research. >> i'd like to make myself available. i'd like to see some of this raw intelligence, if possible. i mean that may answer some of my questions. in terms if somebody could walk me all the way through it exactly what it is and what you guys have been doing with it. >> there were at least 400 -- over 400 intelligence reports that were issued in the initial aftermath. immediately after the raid. i don't know what that number is since then. >> i think you know wha