treasury secretary neal wolan. to him about this morning and still have a lot more to talk about as the program progresses. steve? >> a lot to talk about in terms of markets this morning. u.s. equity futures at this hour, becky, help me out, let's figure out, we were up 150, just off the highs but we were down 20 when we came in, draghi's comments came in, and the market reversed itself. >> let's talk about exxon mobil quickly. this is another big one, just coming out, what was it, $3.41, the estimate was for $1.95? we're going to have to watch this one very closely. exxon mobil at this point, let's look at the stock, it's moving up pretty quickly, 86.25 is where it's indicated after an 85.24 close. this looks like a much bigger number than expected but the revenue number was i believe $15.9 billion. we don't measure that because there aren't enough analyst estimates to still you whether that's in line or above but the company saying $3.41 versus the $1.95, there's a conference call taking place, we get this quickl

. >> we had deputy treasury neal wolan on the set yesterday saying that's great but now we need to seethat's what the market feels. >> the last time -- >> depends on what he does. everything he's done so far andrew he's done and then stopped. >> all i'm suggesting is whatever it is ultimately is going to be temporary in some respect, and so the question is, all he's trying to do is buy time -- he ultimately has to buy time for the politicians, that's what this whole game is about. you may disagree. >> i think it's both. i think that he's tied himself to the mast. i'd now like to see that chancellor merkel and president hollande tie themselves to the mast of the euro. if they're willing to commit politically to the euro, the market will respect that. >> what i'm talking about was unlimited. that's what bernanke did and that's why i think, a major reason why we stemmed the crisis here. when you say unlimited you make traders scared and your market does your bidding for you. they have never done that. he did the ltro and publicly announced no more ltro, the dumbest thing to do. >> he's ty