how much near nealistic can you get than emploes trying to sabotage their own company. that's what unions domination of a industry and only growing in a public sector. >> christian, that's why i brought up the issue of hostess and not just american. american is a company. they could disappear, that is a possibility here. hostess could disappear. i go back i would be sad about the twinkie but they may be gone. >> union workers don't want that as well. you have no labor if people don't have jobs there. is an incentive for labor to work together. they will not roll over unnecessarily. eight of the nine unions american worked with reached an agreement. if not unions working with management. the auto industry would seize to itself. >> the only reason gm is existing now is the union got special treatment from the president. don't tell me if you don't support union don't get anything. they get government favors and they are in bed with the government. >> that spends time and energy and management wasted to try to get through the negotiations and you are right. shame on america