a big state in neamerica. it was called a mandate. moment barack obama comes up with the same idea, he slams it as disgraceful and the end of the world as we know it. you can't really sustain that as a creditcredible position, can ? i salute you, mr. president? >> well, i think what you're seeing is it hasn't worked in massachusetts. health care costs in massachusetts are number one in the country. they have a series of problems with people who decide to take the tax, in other words, pay the fine, instead of buying insurance, because it's cheap a cheaper. it doesn't work. what does work is free people, free markets, bottom-up solutions. that's what makes america great. >> okay, okay, final question. final question. why should we elect him as the president of the united states if he on this fundamental point got it all so horribly wrong? >> well, i would just say this. what he said is they did some things right. they did some things wrong. he learned from those mistakes. i'm using his language. this is something he would oppose. that h