general of the amnesty international canada good to have you with us mr neave on the program a quite significant ruling and by the canadian courts. absolutely thanks for the opportunity it is absolutely not just significant i would say groundbreaking and it's the culmination of many years of advocacy campaigning and of course ultimately a very substantial legal challenge and and i think a very good day for refugee protection and human rights this obviously means now that when one does how the canadian government will move in terms of dealing with something now that has calls to to tional ramifications. absolutely now the court has actually given the canadian government a grace period they've suspended the effect of the ruling for 6 months a period of time to give the canadian government a chance to get its house in order. and you are going to say she's we partnered with on this are however saying the government cannot and really should not take advantage of that 6 month period we have a court ruling that says that for years now rights have been violated along the canada us border and

government has said that it will take 60000000 doses of that manufactured constantly in scotland vul neave a potential vaccine is quite a traditional wanted it essentially is a deactivated corona virus that they that they put into people so you know that potentially has a good chance of success but what it is evidence of is of the government in the u.k. and indeed other governments not putting their eggs in one basket making sure that should one fail they have other options and that seems to be the way that governments around the world are proceeding as far as the hunt for a workable effective vaccine goes. thank you then paul brennan live for us in oxford. or heard about the efforts to combat covert 19 but what's it like to actually have the virus to cross and who is an old friend she is a recovering coronavirus patient was actually one of the very 1st cases in new zealand thanks for the program to me what was your experience of having coronavirus like. thanks for having me michel to the point of i've actually got a suturing this wait for him to make sure it's this which i haven't had a p

very similar to a moment i was personally in around 11 years ago, actually this monday, the 11 year neavesmy father's death, and what happened was my father died of brain cancerment my dad was also an author, leanord shlain, and his love of book stores and readers. very close and he died of brain cancer just within days of my daughter being born and it really felt like one of those moments where life was grabbing me by the shoulders and saying focus on what matters. my husband and i decided with our kids to turn off the screen one day a week for what we call our technology shack pat. it's been the best thing i have ever done in any life for the practice that keeps giving and brings such balance and mean something so many things which i'll go into. and i should also tell you i love technology. i'm not antitech. the other six days i'm in the web and i my background is that my 20s in i founded the -- i have been excite bet the potential of technology to connect us and spent my core either run thing webby awards or made a lot of films bolt the potential of technology. what the continue -- and