dealing with the nebulous mass. if you don't have good three-dimensional skills. from the jobs i have done them performed extremely well like working in the steel factory per car was a crane operator. right after finishing college. says you have a narrow beams of steel through areas to put on a of a truck and they let me do that with one day of practice. [laughter] i said they see something in me. >> as a summer job. as i thought about it they said a tremendous neurosurgeon people thought that was strange because there had been eight black neurosurgeons in the history of the world but to me i did not think about that. this is where by talent is. >> basically the rotations where people can identify like the plastic surgeon rotation because you have to know they are precise and artistic at the same time. >> and a lot of my career's developed around craniofacial surgery with plastic surgery that is why i have an appointment and plastic surgery. >> host: you're not practicing right now. do you miss it? >> guest: imus the way it used to be. a lot of sickness or changin

to think in three dimensions is essential for a mere row surgeon because you are dealing with a nebulous mass. you have to be able to keep in mind where the tracks are even though you can't see them. if you don't have good three-dimensional cells. >> host: have long have you had that? >> guest: some of the jobs that i had done and performed extremely well working in the steel factory. >> host: what did you do it in a steel factory? >> guest: operator right after i finished college. you are driving these enormous beams of steel and dropping them intin the bed of a truck. they let me do that after one day of practice. i said these guys see something in me. >> host: baseball something or they were like you are the next guy you. >> guest: a lot of the ones that worked permanently didn't get to do that. but as i thought about it i said -- a lot of people up it was strange because at the time there had been eight black mirror surgeons in the history of the world, and that to me i didn't even think about that. i said this is where i'm going to go. >> host: basically in some ways the rotation, the on

ability to think in three dimensions which is essential for neurosurgeon because you do with a nebulous mass. and you have to be able to keep in mind when all the tracks are even there you can't see them. if you don't have good three-dimensional skills you are -- >> host: how'd you know you had that skill? >> guest: from some of the jobs that i done annually performed extremely well like working in a steel factory. >> host: what did you do in the steel factory treachery crane operator. right after i finish college. >> host: interesting. >> guest: you are driving these enormous beams of steel through narrow areas and dropping them in the bed of the truck. and that they would let me do that after one day of practice -- >> host: a little scary. >> guest: i said, these guys see something in the that they don't see very often. >> host: the next guy up. >> guest: no, no. that was a summer job and a lot of the guys who worked there probably didn't get to do that. but, you know, as i thought about it i said you'd be a tremendous neurosurgeon to a lot of people thought that was strange because at the

and the ability to think in three dimensions which is essential because you're dealing with a nebulous mass. and you have to be able to keep in mind where all the tracts are even though you can't see them. if you don't have good three-dimensional skills -- >> host: how'd you know how had that skill? >> guest: some of the jobs that i had done and really performed at extremely well like, you know, working in a steel factory. >> host: what'd you do in the steel factory? >> guest: crane operator. >> host: when was this? >> guest: right after i finished college. >> host: interesting. >> guest: and, you know, you're driving these enormous beams of steel through narrow areas and dropping them in the bed of a truck, and that they would let me do that after one day of practice -- [laughter] >> host: be a little scary. >> guest: i said, these guys see something in me that they don't -- >> host: either they saw something, or they were like, well, he's the next guy up. >> guest: no, no. it was a summer job, and a lot of the guys that worked there permanently didn't even get to do that. >> host: wow. >>