think in three dimensions looked -- dimensions which is essential be king george dealing with a nebulous mass. so you have to keep in mind of the tracts even the you can see them so if you don't have three -- good three-dimensional skills. so what i performed extremely well but i started with a crane operator right after college. but the fact they've with the me do that after one day it was a little scary i said they see something in me. that was a summer job a lot of others did not get to do that. but as i thought about that a lot of people thought that was strange with a history of the world. but i said this is my talent and where i will go. >> host: basically the of one rotation where people can identify the plastic surgeon rotation in some way because you have to know they are precise and artistic at the same time. is there some truth to that? >> i think there is a lot of my career developed with the plastic surgeons. >> host: and you're not practicing right now. do you miss it? >> guest: there are a lot of things in the process that are changing and most people chose medicine so you can