to see if this was possible, the defense consulted ned blass, a two-time national collegiate wrestlinghampion and member of the wrestling hall of fame. blass said that genzler's description was consistent with a classic technique every wrestler is taught. >> and i'm taking the position of mr. genzler, mr. harless over here. i'm probably not wanting to fight. as i would back up, he would attack my arm. he would grab my face because i don't want to get into a position i cannot get up. he pulls my head back, i realize i have a knife in my belt, and i take it out, plenty of room to stab whatever i can stab. >> prosecutors scoffed at this notion, as did dusty's family. >> david genzler would have us believe that he was laying face down on the ground and dusty was sitting on his back and that david genzler actually stabbed dusty like this up over the back of his head and stabbed him in the chest while he was sitting on his back. i mean, there are just so many hey. i'm ted and this is rudy. say "hi" rudy. [ barks ] [ chuckles ] i'd do anything to keep this guy happy and healthy. that's why i'