you're going to go back and make ned johnson richer! (laughs) >> rose: (laughs) >> for people who don't know, ned johnson owns fidelity. there's still some money on the east coast. i'm literally wining. i'm wining. and finally, we're walking, i finally start laughing, it's so ridiculous, the whole thing. what a strange life. we've come a long way and here we are these two adopted kids lower middle-class families walking around deciding whether we should buy apple or -- (laughs) the whole thing is crazy. and finally i said steve, i'll do whatever you want know do. and i went on the board. >> rose: did you watch him die? >> close. close. was i think at the last -- >> rose: no, but you watched him go through -- >> i saw -- you know, i'd go over there all the time the walks -- we always go for walks. we'd always go for walks and the walks just kept getting shorter until near the end we'd kind of walk around the block or maybe four blocks, something like that and you just watched him getting weaker. this was the strongest guy i knew. this wa

. >> johnson who has been with us for about a year, supporting his family working on a one billion dollar project the oakland kiaser project. cyrus ned in our office and there is a guy that goes through quite a bit of effort just to get to work every day. he takes three buses to get to bart and he takes bart to dublin and bus to san ramone and it is a two and a half hour commute and the guy is there every day with a smile on his face and i am really excited about him in particular, because the few guys that i don't get to see every day, but the office folks i do. and i have seen his confidence grow and grow by having a job, by feeling part of a team. by coming in and joining us when we have sandwiches brought in and initially he would shy away. but now he is part of the team and the effort and it is exciting to see that. i really believe that this program has impacted his life in immeasurable ways beyond having a paycheck. i will tell you that i am a native san franciscan and i was born in this city and over my 58 years on the planet there have been types that i have been very proud of this city and there are times that i have not be