back to the kaiser report i'm max kaiser time now to go to london and speak with ned mailer leeland asset management nedelcome back to the kaiser report tom nice nice to be here at all boy we've invited you back on the cars the reports of talk about the latest in the j.p. morgan silver manipulation lawsuit and scandal tell us about the latest developments well look i think it's a really interesting story nice i think is probably worth just ramoni yourselves the timeline of this of course we had the last twenty ten we had the c.s.e. hearing it's a silver manipulation and as you well know neither the regulator nor the accused have come up with anything in in that timeframe which is pretty spectacular stuff in and of itself but further to that last year i think it was september of last year almost exactly a year ago there was a cost action lawsuit that was circulated naming j.p. morgan h.s.b.c. as the accused but there was much detail in not talking a lot if you had a look at it they won't necessarily overly sort of impressed with the document but what's obvious is that in the year that has passed since th