if he doesn't negotiate, you can't get to these kinds of k e negotiati negotiations. two, you have the ted cruz faction, which is basically saying we won't negotiate either over anything except obama care. what is the exit strategy that the cruzzites are saying? here's our end game, here's where we want to arrive at? do they have one? >> they have no end game, paul, they've never had an end game. and, you know, i think what they're hoping is that democrats are simply going to crack at some point under the pressure. i have not seen any sign of that. they've been taking vote after very difficult vote with new unanimity -- >> the democrats have? >> the democrats have. because they understand, this goes back ton barack obama calculation, that this is the president's signature achievement. and to go so far as to do defund or even delay to a certain point is to fundamentally undercut that law and get rid of that achievement. >> here's the thing. will they really be willing, this group of republicans, to refuse to raise the debt limit? is that what they're saying now? >> at

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there isn't a back room negotiati negotiation. there hasn't been a normal prenegotiations before we went to this crisis because trust is so broken in washington. so that is a fundamental problem. you know, boehner can't control his caucus. when he tells his own members or business that don't worry, we're not going to default, well, these are a lot of the same leadership who did don't worry, we're not going to have a shutdown. there's a trust cries sglis you said two words. credibility and trust. so you're in a situation like this and neither have either, that causes a real problem when you're trying to stand things down, doesn't it? >> it does. what you really need to do is take the word trust of the of the equation and drop in the world predictability. they become far more predictable. trust is really an emotional word and it clouds everybody's thinking and what their expectations are. you drop in the word predictability. >> republicans are no longer the party of interest. predictably republicans are the ones doing things in the

another signal to iran the high grou in this negotiati is with them.signals what ink is the beginning of a bad deal for the united states and allies. >> how conceivable is it the united kingdom would have opened this relationship iran without u.s. approval and full knowledge and support? >> certainly full knowledge and i suspect support becausee're loing for sobody else to make the sequencing moves to give the first concession so it doesn't look like it com from us. it's bad news next week. iran will have a fake proposal in effect that means nothing. i'm afraid we'll agree to i and this i the road to iranian nuclear weapons. >> that the path created in your judgment. is car that the administration is moving along a path thatt really believes is significant. how can they be deterred? it looks as though ey have support internationally for this opening. >> well, i think a lot of countries are determined to find a negotiated quote/unquote, settlement but if we legitimize iranian enrichment by iran, that is guaranteeing iran will be le to weaponnize its ura

but so far, there are no signs of meaningful negotiatis to end the government shutdown.oehner says: "is isn't some damn game. the american people don't want their goverment shut " wn and neitdo wheou h hsd wolee onefault, he also said he wasn't planning to just add to the country's debt. boehner says: "i don't believe that we should default on our debt. it's nt good for our country. but after5 years of spending more than what you bring in, somthing ought tbe addressed. is year l m the history of our country and yet still have a nearly $700 billion deficit." the house strate on this current crisis is to continue passing smaller funding bills that would make it difficult for any lawker to oppe. cantor says: "tday we'rgoing orn elf.o open and we're going to also vote to provide nutrition services for women and children in poverty." the bills passed, but the white house has threatened t mere trying to force the speaker and house leadership to pass a clean stopgap funding bill. hoyer says: "stop the press conferences. stop the rhetoric. put a bill on the floor.

and if we had bi real negotiati. let's solve the bigger problem.t we are saying is don't hurt more people while we are trying to resolve these difference he is let's make sure that we keep the lights on while we are having these conversations. do you support back pay for furloughed employees. >> you talked a bit about the hit to credibility around the world that this impact has caused. i'm wondering what you and the administration are telling the foreign creditors china and japan that are calling and ask whether the united states is going to avoid defaulting on it's debt. >> well i won't disclose any specific conversations, but my message to the world is that the o haunited states has always pad it's bills and it will do so again.. i think they are not looking at what i say, but they are looking at what congress does. and that is url ultimately up to speaker ba boehner. we are not going to calm creditors until they see speaker boehner call up a bill that authorizes the treasury to pay bills on time. until they see that there is going to be a cloud

meeting yesterday morning where they did sit down and did talk about trying to sort of take over this negotiatihe house. that meeting yesterday was a case where a plan that has been talked about a lot in the last couple of days, which involves democrats and republicans led by susan collins, that was put on the table but rejected by senate democrats and the white house. since that time, there have been no new conversations. senator harry reid, who's the majority leader, just returned to the senate floor. we expect the floor will be open today for senators to come forward and talk about where things stand. honestly, i do not expect any breakthrough today. sources in both parties say there are no conversations scheduled. of course, that can change at any moment. if one of the leaders wants to pick up the phone and reach out to the other. the optimism we saw yesterday is a bit tempered right now. here's how senator harry reid described it when things were looking good. >> this should be seen as something very positive. even though we don't have anything done yet and a long ways to go before anythin