if you look at funding from the 1970's compared to finding today, proportionally if neh were at the same level as it were in the '70s the budget would be over $1.2 billion. does the national disadvantagths investment due to -=- do to the humanities? >> i went around with a filmmaker who was of very vinny's. people want to talk about the ideas. there is a huge appetite for what is war? how do we understand this. i felt this was an example vacation for me as to what the humanities can be and do. i embrace what you say. i worry about the decline in humanity concentrators even in institutions like ours. there are some places where the humanities are expendable when we have to constrained resources. i think we do ourselves a terrible disservice as a country. it does not focus on how to get where it needs to go but knows where it ought to be going. that is a fundamental obligation. >> a great ending to a great panel. thank you. [applause] i'm now going to invite al hunt to come up and introduces panel. in the last session i said gene sperling would be joining us after this discussion. >> that