neil abercrombie the governor of hawaii knew him and understood him best she knew ben mezrich vv coo ann and barack they were always in his life and they were never in theirs. obama was waiting to go back to kenya. that is what he cared about. why will he did carry enough to marry her which he didn't have to do remember he also told her in doing and have these other children full blooded children. i think in his own way she was discouraging her for coming. abercrombie also observed speed had her own envisions. he felt she didn't want to go to kenya because she knew in that culture she would be in second place. she had her own ambition so they come together for several months and they began to part. we have a record the were not even living together around the time that he was born >> host: and ann was 18. and then when did the grandparents coming to the picture? they were part of the picture from -- when she can get married there were 100% present. i interviewed family members about the possibility and none of them believe it would be true. ann was deeply committed. they were a team