today we have neil blumenthal, who's the founder of warby parker, now with more than 1300 employees and a valuation of more than a billion dollars. and jana rich, founder of the rich talent group, who works with partners like warby parker, to recruit top talent. thank you so much for inviting us here. >> thanks for having us. >> good to see you. >> i want to talk to you about retention. you have 1300 employees here. i imagine you've had some turnover over the years. is retention what we should be looking for as owners of companies, as people who run divisions of companies? what do you think? >> i think it's really important to assess who you are losing and where your company is in terms of phase of growth. very fast growing companies who are morphing and changing dramatically are going to need different people. so i think we have to be careful retaining the people we want to and not losing those that we don't. >> because people are always saying you want high retention, right? it's been the mantra since the beginning of time. i imagine the people -- you don't have your whole original te

blumenthal. neil: i want to explain what is going on here. they are voting on this measure would effectively clear the way for the government eventually to reopen. i also feel compelled to correct something i hear often on, not to politicize this issue, this is the first time government has had a shutdown under one party rule. that is simply not the case, my friend. i don't care whether you're a democrat or republican on this this happened self times under jimmy carter when democrats ruled the house and senate as well. the big difference back then, no government workers were furloughed but the government shut down, not once, not twice, but three different times there. is precedent to this they try to make this seem it is historically unique. it is getting to be historically common, no matter what the shape of government and who controls what branch and when. but the fact of the matter this is not a first for one party rule. the difference now, is that it is extended to government workers getting furloughed. something not an option back in the