even neil caputo from fox news calls it cap and tax. that is the image the republican party has got. you just stand up for business so much, you have the image, and the business committee chamber of commerce supports from day one, no discussion, no nothing, just take care of the chamber. looking at "the wall street journal" and those crazy folks you are talking about. "the washinton post" yesterday, 70% of people support this. the actual figure -- and you all keep quoting the guy down in georgia that he came back and told you he did not say that -- the actual amount of money this is going to cost, if it does cost any money, is a i think $174 a year for a household. what this amounts to is that it is not going to lose jobs, it is going to create jobs. guest: i am not sure it deserves much of a comment. i personally do use the term cap and trade because that is what is called. i