. >> julia, last night, fox's neil caputo read e-mails. and let me tell you about a bite that got caputo in trouble. take a listen. >> why are you saying -- >> when did you find out? >> i'll tell you what, rudy is a great guy but he just started a day ago, but he really hasn't started -- >> this is different. this is tape of president trump actually talking about rudy giuliani. but neil caputo went on before talking about how paul ticket and how president trump basically has to startling the truth here. is that any reflection of 9 political consequences of this investigation? because as we're sitting here discovering it, we can't even tell what is the truth and what is it? >> right, right. so, i think this is all very frustrating for neil cavuto. he has touted the president's tax reform strategy. and he's touted the fact that trump is a businessman so he's sometimes supportive of him in that regard. but with all of this news coming out about stormy daniels and payment and all of that swirling around, it makes it frustrated for people like

you, thes it bother did of that neil caputo his conflicting statements? listened to what neil had to say. he made a lot of good points, but i still believe that this andcame from new york area does not know anybody in washington. all the people he has brought through to try and help run the country, he is getting advice from other people from washington. ,e is trying to find his team and from them he is going to try and do what he has been stating for 7-10 years and trying to get this country back on a moral ground as far as our values in middle america. host: the point that neil caputo made was that the media, or people who are putting out these conflicting statements, are using the president's own words. these are not the words of his aides or people that are around him. caller: the latest example, he had sex with that woman about 10 or 12 years ago. anys just being a dog, like , like probably 50% of this males -- the males in this country are. they all lie about their sex life, believe me. legalthere could be ramifications for this. the new york points

listen to neil caputo. this is normally a safe haven for the president of the united states, and even on fox news, they said, mr. president, we can't believe you. >> so let me be clear, mr. president. how can you drain the swamp if you're the one who keeps muddying the waters. you didn't know about that $130,000 payment to a porn star. i think you did. i'm not saying you're a liar, you're busy, i'm just having a devil of a time figuring out which news are fake. let's just say your own stories give me lots of pause. your base probably might not care, but you should. i guess you're too busy draining the swamp to stop and smell the stink you're creating. that's your doing. that's your stake. >> amen. amen. that is sad. sometimes i go after fox news when the president says down, and he's clearly up, he says left and it's clearly right. what the president is doing here, i don't know the goal. on air force i he says he didn't know about the payment. rudy giuliani goes on tv and says he knew everything about the p

amy: that is neil caputo of fox news. legal analysts say the $130,000 payment likely constituted a campaign contribution. president donald trump and vice president mike pence are headed to dlas, tas, today, where e're set to address an annual convention of the national rifle association. the secret service has banned firearms, knives, and other weapons from today's event, which comes on the heels of high-profile mass shootings , including last october's massacre in las vegas -- the worst in modern u.s. history -- and the marjory stoneman douglas high school massacre in florida, which sparked a national movement of students protesting for gun control laws. last year, trump became the rst u. president since ronald reagan to address the nra. in the arabian peninsula, u.s. army green berets secretly deployed to yemen last december and are helping the saudi-led coalition seek out and destroy ballistic missiles held by houthi rebels. that's according to a next was a on the front page of the "new york times" today, which reports

and what i was going to say you talk about the enablers, well, neil caputo on fox today had a prettyough direct -- >> we played some of it. >> yeah. it was quite something, i thought. so that could be a real signal which you might call enablers or people who are sympathetic to the president saying enough's enough. >> yeah, it was quite stunning. i tweeted it out. i said every american and especially trump supporters should watch this fox news segment. let's talk about your show instead of shows on this network -- >> thanks. >> you've got another episode of "the circus" this sunday at 8:00 p.m. and you talk to a lot of folks about the president's effects on the national political climate including a very high profile republican. let's listen in and we'll talk. >> now you're running for public office in the trump era. how is that different? >> i don't know that it's different. you express what you believe. i think for people for whom this is their occupation, politics is something they have to succeed at or their life has been a failure, i don't feel that way. it's different for me. i

neil: that's caputo's point. k about that, he met with them and stone said i met with him once, we had dinner maybe. neil: a dinner i think what you're concerned how the markets are reacting is the same thing. whether they know the details or not would add another element, exoboy. >> uncertainty and put it on top of what we're worried about for fundamental reasons. you heard from liz claman's guest, berkshire hathaway's warren buffett say a trade war wouldn't be-- >> in the market thing, it's going nowhere. >> they're more worried about trade. neil: that's exactly the point, but i think that this could be a black swan development for good or bad. unexpected, and unforced error on the administration. >> and scandals had basically no effect on the markets. two impeachments, andrew jackson and bill clinton, they didn't. with nixon, dragged through the summer of '73, it was other factors weighed. the oil embargo. neil: the uncertainty of it ahead of time. the uncertainty certainly had your, certainly hurts our country

neil: we've got former trump advisor on this show when he was with me yesterday on your world. michael caputo talking about all of this take a look. >> i gave this information to the mueller team and they never reached out to the intermediary to check on it. neil: wait a minute so you raised the issue? just to be clear you raised this issue with mueller's team when they were questioning you and they did nothing? >> they weren't even interested they didn't even seem to be taking notes. neil: all right, i want to go to former fbi deputy assistant director. terry we take it face value what mr. caputo said is little interest on the part of mueller 's team about these allegations would suggest either they knew about it or they didn't think it was a big deal or both. what do you think? >> well, neil i think they did know about it. i think when you put all the pieces together of all the things that are coming at us right now pretty fast and furious what you see is or what

neil: as you predicted months ago, many months ago this would fear into areas we couldn't even imagine, it is pretty clear from my discussion with caputo> yes. neil: that is just a given. so i don't know where it's going. he seemed to get a sense that for now anyone named trump didn't seem to be a target but business dealings, all of that stuff, some going back years were, i don't want to put word in his mouth, but definitely seemed to have taken on a direction that was not the original one. >> i think i know exactly what mr. caputo was speaking b of course i don't know what questions were put to him but one of the items mueller's team has subpoenaed deutsche bank records. deutsche bank records, that was the principle lender to donald trump in his growth years here in new york city. neil: a lot of it came through that entity. >> they have 20 years of loan documents. they want to start putting a loan document in front of him signed 20 years ago ask him where the money went? neil: that is not russian entity. that is not russian -- >> that is what justice scalia dissenting the opinion about these type of special counsels. it was different

neil: and i had michael caputo here last week and a lot of questions asked, the former trump operative lot to do with other business dealings and stuff, but not anybody involving the president and not any name involving the name trump so it sounds like a lot of stuff outside the president's periphery, i glean from that, whatever comes of this, will be trump's sub board-- subordinates. >> that the president is not a target for now. >> if he's a target or you have to say as far as, you have to say, our investigation with regard to the president has concluded. neil: they still want to talk to trump with a subpoena, right? >> because they're not ready to close the investigation. if they were to come out and say there's no reason for us to have a discussion with the president-- >> would you advise the president to talk to him? >> as a lawyer, really, i advise anybody to talk to authorities because it's kind of a witch hunt without people being in the room. you have to be very well prepped and in this regard there are just too many elements, too many questions and every week we see another e

caputo thanks for being back. >> thanks for having me. >> neil: so you're convinced there was more than one individual?m. to my approach, it happened in the first week of may of 2016. far off the timeline that the mueller investigation and others are trying to hold to it to when the investigation into the trump campaign actually began. >> trace: so when you say may of 2016, what happened? the discovery of somebody penetrating the campaign or what? >> i was approached by an enter mediatory who had been talking to a government official, a former government official, that told him that they had hillary clinton-related e-mails at that government organization and that they wanted to get them to the trump campaign. this was may 6 that he heard that in 2016. i was told by the intermediary that they wanted to get them to me. this continued back and forth several days. i was in trump tower at the time when i got a call. i would walk outside the office. i spent time in the hallway outside the fifth floor office talking to this enter mediatory. >> neil: at trump >> yes, sir. >> neil: all right. so you -- you're a

the fellow -- michael caputo was on with neil cavuto, somebody from the agency, through intermediaryered emails. we understand the guy got back in contact with us because we reached out to us and said i never worked for government agency. brian: makes everyone suspicious. ainsley: he said conversation at cocktail party. steve: to your point, if the federal government knew something about something, why didn't they tell somebody? >> the efforts of russia to med until the election are worth investigating, there's no question about that. but if you are insert yourselves into somebody's campaign and you're worried about protecting the campaign as apologist for the fbi, wouldn't you go immediately and say to the people in the campaign, look, we need to tell you this, you have a problem here, you have the russians trying to penetrate you here. that was considered we now know and it never happened. brian: considered but it didn't happen but why are they so concerned about saying this whole investigation first started in july and then they say late spring. why don't you just say, when you hi

neil: all right. the president has been tweeting about the mueller probe to say this has veered off course and confirmed by michael caputoling me over the weekend on "cavuto live" has very little to do with anything named trump. so if it's off the rails, where is it going? a radio show begins tonight. benson and harf. they said they will argue but not hit each other. congratulations. >> thank you. >> neil: the president cannot let off the witch hunt thing. guy, we'll begin with you. it's an unending run at him for things that have nothing to do with collusion. when you heard those that have been scrutinized and questioned by authorities around mueller, you do have to wonder. do you? >> i certainly share the frustration that it's unending. it's been a year now. i understand there's a lot of things to explore, but i suspect people across the aisle would like to see a conclusion as soon as possible. as for the witch hunt, because that's the terms the president uses, you'd think if that's what he believes, he wouldn't want to sit down and talk to mueller because as we heard in the interview with caputo, they asked a lot of p

caputo, a former operative. he was here yesterday. let's go to steve scalise. congressman, good to have you. >> great to be back with you. >> neilesident said we have to got to the bottom of this. some are calling for special prosecutor to look into this. what is your view on it? >> i've had a lot of concerns for a while about things going on at the fbi. i've been vocal about it. the fbi needs to get their house in order and not focus on witch hunts but keep truth to their core mission of keeping america safe. we raised a lot of questions. devin nunes and trey gowdy are trying to get more facts from justice, fbi and not getting the information that we need. we're going to keep pressing to get those answers. >> neil: sounds like you wouldn't be keen on another prosecutor. >> i'm open to a special prosecutor to look into some of these allegations that i don't think are being adequately a dressed. however we can get them addressed. if the fbi and justice just turn over the documents that have been requested without redacting full pages in a ridiculous way, we would make a lot of head way and answer questions. they should be as inte