i am neil cavuto. nevermind the generals who say we cannot afford not to send more troops there. there are hardball and all of the money we are spending their. let's just say they have other numbers -- they are hard bolling -- hardballing all of the money we are spending there. our guest from "the washington post examiner" joins us. they are looking at the substantial money we are spending their region "the washington times -- we are spending there -- "the washington examiner" joins us. >> this is a hugely expensive undertaking. this is tens or hundreds of billions over time. neil: all right, so we have already known. we have been in afghanistan, $229 billion, and we know that if we do the 40,000 troops, that would be another $3 billion a year in afghanistan. >> at least, yes. neil: so they are looking at the dollar worth of all of this, right? >> if you are vice-president biden, and you are making or pitch as to why we should have a smaller footprint in afghanistan, why we should sort of leave the karzai government to his own devices -- you are making your pitch as to this, one