let's get the pulse with ceo neil cole. welcome. for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> bill and i both think we're in the wrong business because you turned licensing into a $13 billion revenue, is that right? >> yes. we've been very fortunate. iconics come up with the model where we partner with great retailers around the world and sell 33 different brond that equal $13 billion. >> candy's, danskin, joe boxer, peanuts, sharper image, sandra lee, fieldcrest. it goes on and on. some of these are companies that have sort of fallen down a bit, so you scoop them up and how do you improve that branding image when you do that? >> what we do is usually partner with one big retailer, usually a macy's, walmart, target and put new marketing and energy into the brands. we look at brands like danskin or london fog, 100-year-old companies and make them relevant for today. we create marketing, branding, the right celebrities and do all the ways to make brands relevant and great today. >> that's what people, i think, would like to know becaus