[applause] >> thank you neil feldman. who can give us another example of resources in the most unlikely places if we only think about where to look for them. i believe for our next speaker, ralph nader will be returning tointroduce him . is ralph in the house? ... >> alright everybody, make yourself comfortable, he'll be back. ... >> thank you neil. it's my pleasure to introduce doctor michael jacobson. it was many years ago that i interviewed him when he was up at mit getting his phd. and i'll never forget the interview. we were interviewing all kinds of graduate students, to come to work with us in washington and those were the days when they stood in line for a public interest work and he was finishing his phd in microbiology from mit and one of the questions i asked all the students who i was interviewing was are you in it for the long run? or you just want a couple years to get it on your time and you go to work for the establishment. and i asked mike, are you in it for the long run and yes, and here he is decades la