. >> neil franklin from leap. as a 33-year-old veteran, i have arrested hundreds of people. we cannot do that. we arrested 1.6 million drug offendsers every year. what's -- i think what isn't in having a law enforcement background, people don't quite understand that the vast majority of this employment and work is done at the state and local level. not by the federal lovet. the changes that i'm seeing across the country, for incarceration. it is important -- i think one of the other things that's kind of helpful is that it's a police chief for those that would have talked about this a few years ago. you would have been characterized as being soft on drugs or soft on crime. >> with 37 years as being soft on either of those things and so a policy that begins to say there are other alternatives. there are ways to reduce some of this particular. i think the national drug control stray ji affects how to federal agent ises do that. it doesn't talk about science. but there's a science that has been well conducted in my opinion can be a wonderful to say we could look at this. >> unf