it is every indication that neil gorsuch feels exactly the same way. as he has taken antonin scalia's spot. so i think there will be open season and political finance for years to come. he did not talk about the, when neil gorsuch replaced antonin scalia in a wave of it really was not such a big setback for people interested in liberal values because number one, it did not change the voting composition of the court. and number two, you were not getting a justice - antonin scalia's -- there is every prospect he will be there for another 30 years or more. and if you have other retirements and i do not think that ruth ginsburg is going to retire until she is on life-support. but i think that there may be other retirements. kennedy is rumored to retire and donald trump will have another nomination and there is every prospect that the nominee would be confirmed by the senate. yes, sir? [inaudible question] >> i think it may vary from issue to issue because it said here was kennedy appointed by ragan and yet he was the decisive vote in the gay marriage case.

are very happy about neil gorsuch, very happy about deregulation. so is there another side to this? >> absolutely. that's why when we talk about the trump base, always point out that it's very durable, he has a long leash. the base has been patient until now they're starting to be signs that some of that may be a v eroding. axios had reporting over the weekend that the president seemed to be referencing in his tweets this morning when we had very fascinating polling from firehouse strategies and optimi optimists, great republican firms here in d.c., look at swing states and finding that there was a dangerous drop in the president's support among republicans, those who were very supportive, those who thought he was very honest. and so this was a good-sized poll, 2900 people were likely to vote, midterm voters soshg starting to see some signs there. but stephanie, here is the big problem, is that even if he kept 100% of his base, not one person softened, that's thin red line as you know. he's done nothing to expand that base, nothing that an infrastru

i would also echo using the --logy of added details adjectives in which he described neil gorsuch is writing -- gorsuch's writing. the substance of his position, .hey were assertive were radical and perhaps revolutionary. he is not one to hesitate to be theed the law -- reshape law. borrowing on the statistic of the other justices taking a little more time and moderating the town among colleagues, erwin concern. the trinity there is defenses were notable because they do not often use the rhetoric they used in those cases to challenge the majority opinion or their colleagues. judge gorsuch use that rhetoric in a most every opinion he wrote. just react to what you said. the reason the nuclear option was used for the first time by with therats filibuster -- we had other times in the past where we were on the brink with the bush administration. before, when there was talk about the republicans using a nuclear option, they pulled back. if the confirmation process has changed, you need to send a thank you note to harry reid. i want to follow up on the gorsuch question. .alk about his separa

it is clear neil gorsuch is going to be a very conservative justice. he is 49 years old. if he reminds on the court until he is 90 -- he remains on the court until he is 90, he will be a justice for 40 more years. to a large extent, neil gorsuch , ilacing justice scalia think it is that appointment that will ideologically shift the court. >> i have a couple things to say about justice gorsuch. it is remarkable, most new justices are justices on the court. they talk about when they first three,and say they took 4, 5 years to know what they were doing. he shows none of that. he has been extraordinarily assertive. i'm trying to come up with a neutral adjective, confident. people call him aggressive. in justice kagan's first two years on the court, she wrote seven separate opinions. andurring opinion dissenting opinions, neil gorsuch wrote that many as -- in his first two months in court. they were of the opinion on technical points. they challenged other members of the court on how they were doing things, when they were deciding. how they were reading statutes. i saw a coupl

this year, the nomination of neil gorsuch, who now sits on the supreme court. guest: it was fascinating to look at again. we talk about senate coirmation hrings. that is not something that is as appealing to students as whether or not the fourth amendment means that someone is having a party and the police come that they can come inside. senate confirmation hearings are a little open to sell, but it made it highly relevant to their lives. as much as it was unprecedented to watch and raise questions, it was certainly a gift or government teachers and thiss why we have to care about the rules and leadership. here's one of those moments from the senate floor and the senate republican leader, mitch mcconnell of kentucky. [video clip] when president clinton nominated stephen breyer, i voted to confirm it. when president clinton nominated ruth bader ginsburg, i voted for her. i thought it was the right thing to do after you won the election. he was the president. the president gets to appoint supreme court justices. when president obama nominated sonia sotomayor and

and i think neil gorsuch is a disaster. host: thank you for calling in.hat do you think about a potential speaker pelosi? i am with nancy pelosi. she has done a great job. of has gone up against a lot the things that republicans have tried to do. yes, she does make a lot of money. now,ook at what you see money has to be an issue. but with her principles and philosophies for the government, i agree with that. democrats havet -- a better plan. democrats do have a plan. a plan on how to get the country back together. host: thank you to bobby and everyone who participated in the program. washington journal is back at 7:00 a.m. on monday morning. our discussion on the economy and afteren moore that, the international affairs director talking about your money and the $21 billion that has been spent on fighting isis. that is tomorrow on the washington journal. coming up in a couple of hours on book tv, another live program. this is with chris van hollen, a .ea party activist promoting her books and talks on the constitution. she will be on in-depth and that begi

just like they were when he appoint eed neil gorsuch. there was going to be a filibuster there, too. even the republicans -- some of them -- both of my senators said they would never vote to change the republicans, probably half said that. they knew they couldn't go to the american people and say, well, yes, neil gorsuch is the most qualified nominee and the election was about the constitution and the election was about the supreme court, but we unfortunately have rules that will not allow him to get an up or down vote. they knew they could never sustain that with the american people. so they changed the rule. as soon as we can elevate what happens to our spending process here in the same way, i think that rule will change. the government is what it spends. it's about the article 1 constitutional powers of the congress. it's a very big issue on both sides. it cuts both ways. democrats are in charge, they will have more capability to pass things. if republicans are in charge, they will. at least then the american people will know who is d

. -- he has issued executive orders, installed justice neil gorsuch, he has been a forceful voice for pro-life efforts. he has signed an executive order related to religious liberty, saying he supports the idea that free speech is maybe more what democrats view as antidiscrimination efforts when it comes to same-sex marriage ceremonies. from the standpoint of what issues were most important to evangelicals, president trump has -- host: ruth, an independent. hello. all of this is, to me, of no consequence. great-great-grandma was a chickasaw, the other was a cherokee, she walked the trail of tears. jew.andpa was a full blood david duke would have hated my family. same as he hates donald trump's family. because there are jews in donald's family, too. and his daughter converted to judaism. david duke is using this. he did ittrump -- over and over. , i rest of his speech imagine martin luther king jr.. , andtened to his speeches donald trump is the closest thing to martin luther king jr. as i have ever heard. host: why is that? caller: america, unite and come together. host: i want to tak

the people still in this administration, scott pruett, neil gorsuch, if you think about those guys trumpnow that bannon is on the outside, you will see the agenda that bannon cares about going forward but i think it's the trump agenda, i don't think that it is anything that shifted. >> the problem with the theory is this is not who trump was before, before this incarnation as a presidential candidate and now president of the united states, these were not policies that he hammered on when he had plenty of opportunity to the way that steve bannon did. so where does your confidence come from that he will continue to be do things that he has not been able to do yet? >> well, bannon emerged on the conservative what i think the populous conservative scene ten years ago. i disagree with that a little bit. trump has talked about immigration and trade and america being broken in terms of competitiveness. but let me say something, chris, politicians change stripes, it's really what you have done for us in office? and again, gorsuch, judges, china, on a different relationship. pruett cutting regula

. >> neil gorsuch. >> well, other than neil gorsuch. i mean -- >> which is a big deal. >> which is a big deal to conservatives. i was speaking of a piece of legislation. >> i think -- to your point, if he wanted to have a successful piece of legislation, he should have gone to infrastructure. infrastructure is something very simple to -- >> they don't reward you for trying. they reward you for delivering. >> we're going to take a quick break. more of the conversation. we've been discussing his temperament and chief of staff general kelly and whether he can impose a military order on the famously free wheeling boss. a breakthrough. ♪ it's in our nature to need each other. ♪ you don't let anything lkeep you sidelined. come on! that's why you drink ensure. with 9 grams of protein, and 26 vitamins and minerals... for the strength and energy, to get back to doing what you love. ensure, always be you. >>> president trump is not the first chief executive to find himself at odds with his own party. rarely does it get so heated so soon. on the p

>> well, i think the major achievement, of course, is neil gorsuch which will influence the court forions. it was quite a bit of deregulation, the congressional review act which allowed rescinding of 14 regulations that had been approved at the end of the obama administration. guess who vetoed that last regulation was john mccain. he has been feeling ornery all year. these are all achievements. they are undeniable. they are mostly presidential achievements. the fact is that the congress has been a complete bust. and that i think is a huge disappointment. here they are, they have been saying for seven years give us control, give us the signature in the white house. we will do great things. and on the great things they did nothing. the obamacare repeal was an epic fail. they had seven years to work it out. and for some of the senators it was a matter of bad faith. when they had a vote to repeal, knowing that obama wouldn't sign, they voted to repeal. when they had the same vote to repeal, knowing that president trump would sign, they voted the other way. that, i think, is going to be a

namely neil gorsuch. got that one through. strings to make sure gorsuch did get through. that doesn't make me an apologist for the senator or the system, just a fair balance observer of the system. contrairy to popular opinion, te president is getting a lot done. stocks are up. consumer confidence is high. unemployment is down. these are metrics that we measure a president's success. he has good data. would it kill anybody to give it a brief mention at all? the president gets side tracked by these pointless distractions. the president is quite right to say many in the media hate him. but he feeds the beast going off on these tangents that only hurt him. his economic agenda is sound. the promise it holds for the economy is real. he can't make it happen if he goes after the very republicans that he needs to make it real. i don't think he or the president's base cares but they do care if all of those promises don't get fulfilled. i suspect the president knows this or he wouldn't have made all the staff changes he has or changed h

. >> neil gorsuch. >> well, other than neil gorsuch. i mean -- >> which is a big deal. >> which is a big deal to conservatives. i was speaking of a piece of legislation. >> i think -- to your point, if he wanted to have a successful piece of legislation, he should have gone to infrastructure. infrastructure is something very simple to -- >> they don't reward you for trying. they reward you for delivering. >> we're going to take a quick break. more of the conversation. we've been discussing his temperament and chief of staff general kelly and whether he can impose a military order on the famous free-willing boss. clothing and shoes. and up to 70% off on outdoor life for him and simply styled for her! plus hot deals on jeans for kids, starting at 8.99. hurry - sale ends september 4th. when you switch to progressive. as easy as saving $600 winds stirring. too treacherous for a selfie. [ camera shutter clicks ] sure, i've taken discounts to new heights with safe driver and paperless billing. but the prize at the top is worth every last brea

did the president get enough credit for getting neil gorsuch through the supreme court? no, he did not. did he get credit for personally intervening and having a hostage released from egypt? 830-year-old woman who had been in prison for three years? no, he did not, that was a half of day story. i think the change with general kelly coming in, a four-star buttoned up general, is exactly what the white house needs. you have put a person and place who is a leader of men and women, who has been to the battlefield, the leader of the southern command, who by all accounts, republicans and democrats alike, will tell you he knows what he is doing. what you need is not chaos in the white house. what you need is consistency. you need the president focused on the big picture and implementing his agenda. and you need the staff. jim kelly from boston is going to be the chief of the staff. not the chief of the president. he is going to go there and make sure that every piece of information given to the president is tight and is right and is going to affect our country in the right way.

appointed justice neil gorsuch. nominated 31 federal judges with many more on the way. so important, we have aggressively canceled job killing regulations. we are unleashing job creating american energy like we've never unleashed before. we've ended the war on beautiful, clean coal and it's just been announced that a second, brand-new coal mine where they are going to take out clean coal -- meaning they are taking out cold, they are going to clean it, it's opening in the state of pennsylvania. the second one. and the state of west virginia, which was way behind and lagging was now -- in terms of gdp increase -- second last quarter to the state of texas. how about that? west virginia. and they have a great governor in west virginia. governor jim justice, who just quit the democrats and joined the republican party. in the proud to tradition of american great leaders, george washington -- please, don't take a step down. please! does anyone want george washington's statute? no, is that sad? to lincoln and teddy roosevelt, i see they want to take teddy roosevelt's down too.

neil gorsuch did finally get confirmed. he did not mention what happened last year. >> he did not get into the whole situation with a nomination being held off for what was almost a year in terms of trying to prevent obama from filling that seat left by scalia. i probably did not overstate enough, trying to understand what they were living through was a historic event, to see the link of time that seat remained think it -- taken to. that is a good moment to let the students understand that this was something that is a process in our history. it really stalled out in the name of partisanship. it makes it oppressive. democrats controlling the senate, hypothetical, you wonder if there would be political payback. >> cannot imagine that there will not be. what mitchue that mcconnell did was payback. political -- i thought it was interesting. you are gambling on a republican winning the presidency, which at that time, was not as for seen. there will note be retaliation. this has been going on so long with judges. --do have a broa

when it comes to his legislative agenda, yay, he got neil gorsuch. here's the other things he said he was going to get done well before where we are now. >> i will build a great, great wall on our southern border and i will have mexico pay for that wall. mark my words. i'm lowering your taxes big league. this will be the biggest tack cuts since ronald reagan. we will also repeal and replace the total disaster known as obamacare. we're going to stop it day one. >> 0-3 there, mark. those were big promises and the legislative agenda that his base elected him to fulfill. that's what they wanted. not the tweets. >> right. and i would go so far to say that mitch mcconnell changed the rules that allowed neil gorsuch to pass with the bare majority through the united states. so i would give that to mitch mcconnell. looking when you look at what the president has been saying in his promises, they are not that much different than we've seen from other presidents who have made promises. however, his promises are so definitive and he's so sure of himself until th

did the president get enough credit for getting neil gorsuch through the supreme court? no, he did not. for a hostagedit crisis in egypt? i think the change with general kelly coming in, a buttoned up general is exactly what the white house needs. you have put a person and place it is a leader of men and women, who has been to the battlefield, the leader of the southern command, who by all accounts will tell you he knows what he is doing. what you need is not chaos in the white house. what you need is consistency. you need the president focused on the big picture, and implementing his agenda. is going from boston to be the chief of the staff. not the chief of the president. he is going to go there and make sure that every piece of information given to the president is right. that is what he is going to do. that move should have been made three months ago. here is where we are. it is the president's prerogative to choose who the chief of staff is. i think we're going to see a change in the implementation coming from the white house. the communications team at the white ho

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appointed justice neil gorsuch. nominated 31 federal judges with many more on the way. so important, we have aggressively canceled job killing regulations. we are unleashing job creating american energy like we've never unleashed before. we've ended the war on beautiful, clean coal and it's just been announced that a second, brand-new coal mine where they are going to take out clean coal -- meaning they are taking out cold, they are going to clean it, it's opening in the state of pennsylvania. the second one. and the state of west virginia, which was way behind and lagging was now -- in terms of gdp increase -- second last quarter to the state of texas. how about that? west virginia. and they have a great governor in west virginia. governor jim justice, who just quit the democrats and joined the republican party. in the proud to tradition of american great leaders, george washington -- please, don't take a step down. please! does anyone want george washington's statute? no, is that sad? to lincoln and teddy roosevelt, i see they want to take teddy roosevelt's down too.

she was the exact same age, 49 going on 50 as neil gorsuch was. >> that's the golden era to get nominated. >> that's right. but now i think i've exhausted the litany except of course if we have time about merrick garland who did not quite make it to the court. >> we're talking about legacies and history here. i think you'll agree as an historian that it is perhaps a little premature to talk about the legacies of the sitting justices. while i do have some questions for you about the sitting justices, they are in the process of writing their own legacies. i'm going to focus a lot in my remaining 20 minutes before opening it up to the audience -- i guess that gives me about 17 minutes to get to my concluding remarks. i want to ask you some things about some of these justices in particular and have you share with the audience some of your learning about them. i need to have you -- when we talk about these people as jewish justices, we are using the convention here that they were born to jewish mothers, correct? >> that's all correct. >> to what extent are we talking about people for whom jewi

steve: on the senate floor, neil gorsuch did get confirmed. she did not get into the situation with the nomination being held off for was filling that seat that was left by scalia. that was one of those events. it was a historic event. for the students, it was a good moment to let them understand how partisan this had become. it had become a process in history. it really stalled out in the name of partisanship. it may set a precedent has if -- republicans with lose lose control of the senate, if the democrats control the senate , you wonder if there would be political payback. sunshine: we cannot imagine there will not be. you could argue that what mitch mcconnell did was payback for harry reid lowering the closure .argin for other nominations i thought it was interesting as it was happening. mitch mcconnell is gambling on a republican winning the presidency. at the time, it was not and for seen. -- unforeseen. i cannot imagine there will not be retaliation. we seeing it continue to escalate. steve: do you have a broader question that washingt

highest traditions, like the newest member of the supreme court of the united states, justice neil gorsuchpplause] so, it isdent pence: about jobs and prosperity, it is about security at home and abroad. it is about our fundamental liberties and strengthening america each and everyday. allident trump has done that and more and it has only been more than six months. say,e president likes to at this white house, that is what we call a good start. [applause] the truth is, we got a lot more work to do. one forssure you, job this administration going forward is we are going to fight every day to keep the promise we made and we are going to repeal and replace obamacare. [applause] now, lastdent pence: week, it was clear that the senate wasn't quite ready to keep the promise to the american people when they fell one vote short of moving forward on a bill to repeal and replace this disastrous policy. is, every obamacare survives is another day the american people struggle. when obamacare past, we heard a lot of promises, you remember? if you like your doctor, you can keep him, not true. ,ou like y

tweet,eplying to this about getting neil gorsuch on the supreme court, was to reverse the rule of law. guest: can i answer that. ? what part of the constitution does it violate? the senate has a big role. you have to remember that the united states government was established to be limited and powers to be diffused in branches of government. that is why we have three branches. we often think of the american government in today's context of the president. he has the cool house and the megaphone. he gets to dominate coverage but he has no more power, just different power, then people in congress. t importantr mos powers is to look at these other branches of government and scrutinize them. and to delay them if necessary. you have apened, if supreme court opening so close to an election, we ought to let the american people choose who they want to make that pick. then the senate will take up the action. i applaud it. i think it is one of the most important steps a leader has taken in my lifetime. host: will the tables returned? turned?the tables be guest: they could be. but nominees were no

host: replying to this tweet, about getting neil gorsuch on the supreme court, was to reverse the rule of law. guest: can i answer that? what part of the constitution does it violate? the senate has a big role. you have to remember that the united states government. the senate has a very big role. united states government was established -- with this limit. power in branches of government -- it's been a have these branches. this government -- contests about the president. tore's megaphones -- he gets dominate the coverage. he has a different power than people in congress. one of the most important powers congress has is to look at these, especially the third ranch of government, and delay them in necessary -- if necessary. when you have a supreme court opening -- so close to an election, the american people choose what they want to make the. then the senate will take this up. i think there is an important step here -- >> hypothetical comments democrats gain control system thousand 19. a sitting justice passes away. will the tables be turned? >> they are at work. this is what is importa

neil gorsuch wrote that many in his first two and a half months. there were opinions on technical points, but challenged other members of the court on how they were doing things -- when they were deciding, how quickly to summarily reverse a lower court, how they were reading statutes. i saw a couple of indications, at least in my mind, watching an argument, where he got some firm pushback from justice kagan, who is a justice who, seems like as much as anyone, can get along with everyone on the court. she heard something he said in arguments, and he used a word -- she used a word like "radical" to discuss the argument he was making. >> that supreme court review posted by the university of california in irvine. the entire program airs tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern here on c-span. netive coverage of the roots nation 2017 coverage thursday and friday on c-span. q&a about elections happening this year, and a look at the 2018 midterm landscape. friday, at 1:00 p.m. eastern, a discussion on standing up for working families and embracing progressive values.

he voted for neil gorsuch for the supreme court.e voted on the replace and replacement of obamacare and he's something -- not like he can waste his vote. but the president is out there tweeting all of the crazed things about jeff flake. so there is damage and i think in some cases it will be very difficult to repair going forward. >> i think we had a moment here, a line in the sand when you had senators like bob corker this week raising questions about president trump's stability. his competence in office. >> this is someone who has a cordial relationship with the president. >> i think that's shocking. you see more and more republicans speaking out. marco rubio, ted cruz, you don't want to mention the "t" word this week, trump. you're starting to see them come forward and starting to question the president's judgment. that is a big division. you have seen some republicans, mitt romney included, and arnold schwarzenegger who this week delivered a real jab at trump in a video that got something like 8 million views within a couple of

mitch mcconnell gave him his only important accomplishment, which is justice neil gorsuch. i think almost breaking the senate, unfairly denying president obama the nomination of judge merrick garland. but whatever. the only important accomplishment trump has is because of mitch mcconnell's insider expertise of the senate. they're going to -- he's going to need mitch to get him a budget, to get him a debt deal, and yet he has to attack these guys, ryan and mcconnell especially. >> the week before he was attacking murkowski. he's -- you know, his people, his trump world has advertised against heller in a swing state in nevada. they are raising money in a primary against flake in a swing state of arizona. so at some point you begin to ask yourself, do you actually want a republican majority? or do you want to be able to say -- >> he only needs 34 to be kept from being removed in the impeachment trial to come. >> but they've also read nate silver's analysis where it essentially says 2018's the best year for republicans if you look at how the map is drawn and how these congressi

delivered what is arguably the signature achievement of this administration, which is putting neil gorsuch in the supreme court. al: looking to 2018, though, how much of a problem is this for the party right now? for example, what happens if the members in the senate who are up for reelection are forced to choose between mcconnell and president trump? is that an issue you guys are worried about? what is your take on that? steven: it comes down to everybody understanding what is at stake. if we have serious divisions in the party with respect to the 2018 midterms, that will complicate our ability to grow the senate majority, complicate our ability to hold the house majority. losing either house would be disastrous for the president's agenda and disastrous for his reelection. it will be very important for people to get on the same page. obviously, there will be disagreements in terms of tactics and over policy. that always happens with any administration. it will be important to try to settle those differences in as constructive as a way as possible. ultimately -- the ultimate objective for

the appointment of neil gorsuch.ome of the thing this president has done are foundation and basic to the future of this country. and i like that he was strong when it came to north korea when few other presidents really were. lisa: thank you for being here tonight. we appreciate your time. next, another check on tropical storm harvey. adam klotz is next. i'm marianne rafferty, now back to "justice with judge jeanine." lisa: we'll check are hurricane harvey in a bit. but president obama making a lot of news. here to talk about it. michael star hopkins as welling a charlie kirk. guys thanks for being here. i want to start with you, michael. president trump is getting a lot of criticism for the pardoning of joe arpaio. but you can look at bill clinton pardoning marc rich. tax fraud, and president obama in the commuting of the sentence of the chelsea manning who was a traitor and put people's lives at risk. >> i criticized the commutation of chelsea manning. i think the president should use pardoning and commutation in r

elena kagen succeeded john paul stevens, who was the last protestant to the appointment now of neil gorsuch, an apiepiscopalian, this kind o thing would have been unimaginable. and then eventually a catholic seat on the court and then an african-american seat on the court. and now there are three women on the court. and i think there will continue to be at least one or two women on the court. this brings, if i can, the whole question of how this came about and anti-semitism within the legal profession. and is it okay to address this as -- >> i'm going to ask you you decide whether to address it now. it certainly is something i want you to talk about. i was thinking about for those two or three people in the country who can't rattle off automatically who these sometimes mysterious eight justices are, maybe it would help just by having you identify who they were, who they were nominated by, when they served and just a couple of sentences. i'm going of them. >> sure. sure. >> and what their, as your sub titles, their legacy is. i guess we may have to continue this discussion until tomorrow aft

inabilitying conservative golding and i have to say as a conservative, this president, nominated neil gorsuch to the supreme court. a big deal for conservatives. a big deal for me. was very pleased to help shepherd his nomination through the judiciary committee and then on the floor. that's a great win that will have conservative implications, i think, in the future, and another nomination to the federal bench and other cabinet appointments. that's the start of good conservative policy if we can follow through now. but part of my concern revolves around not just being conservative in terms of policy but being conservative in terms of demeanor and comportment and manners, and in foreign policy, conservative needs to be steady and needs to be sober and predictable. and respect our institutions, and those international institutionses that have served us well for so long. and that -- anything else is not conservative. >> host: sticking to domestic policy for now, that obsession you had with tax cuts. as a -- it's why i became a conservative or fiscal policy. , tax cuts and staff the beast, this w