four other conservative justices, clarence thomas, neil gorsuch, brett kavanaugh, and amy comey barrett majority. it's not clear whether roberts would have aloud the mississippe mississippi law to stand without overturning roe over whether he joined the three liberals. if the draft holds, it would represent a triumph of the antiabortion movement which has marched for life every year since the court's landmark 1973 decision that abortion was a constitutional right that states could not ban. the court in 1992 was one vote away from overturning roe. over the next 30 years, that goal was a republican campaign promise. with justice clarence thomas on record opposing roe, from george w. bush nominated alito. a decade later after the death of justice antonin scalia, then- majority leader mitch mcconnell blocked president obama from filling the seat, giving former president trump the opportunity to nominate gorsuch, and later kavanaugh and barrett. like with every other supreme court confirmation hearing since roe, all were pressed for their view. >> "roe v wade" is an important precedent of th

: maine's susan collins said reversing roe would be completely inconsistent with what justices neil gorsuch and brett kavanaugh told her before their confirmation. the president said lawmakers supporting abortion rights should write them into law. >> i think the codification of roe makes a lot of sense. >> reporter: collins and murkowski is sponsoring a bill that would narrowly protect abortion rights but oppose a democratic bill that broadly limits state government from limbing abortion. the bill is stalled in the senate but majority leader chuck schumer says he'll force a boat so republicans have to oppose it on record. >> this is as urgent and real as it gets. >> reporter: as for this year's midtermigll a big ct >> the contours of this election this year changed. >> reporter: the bombshell leak was on the mind of several voters casting ballots in ohio's primary today. >> i felt particularly emboldened to come out today and, i don't know, a sense of responsibility, especially with a lot of the reproductive rights discussions coming out of the supreme court. >> i'm going to trust and hope

justice clarence thomas, neil gorsuch, brett kavanaugh, and amy coney barrett joining alito.reports chief justice john roberts does not want to completely overturn roe v. wade but he would vote to uphold the mississippi law that would ban abortion at 15 weeks of pregnancy. if roe is overturned, 13 states have so-called trigger laws that would make abortion illegal as soon as the court rules. they are among the more than 26 states the guttmacher institute says are likely to ban abortion soon as possible -- alabama, arizona, arkansas, florida, georgia, idaho, indiana, iowa, kentucky, louisiana, montana, michigan, mississippi, missouri, nebraska, north dakota, ohio, oklahoma, south carolina, south dakota, tennessee, texas, utah, west virginia, wisconsin, and wyoming. for more we're joined by two guests. michele goodwin is chancellor's professor at university of california, irvine and founding director of the center for biotechnology and global health policy, author of "policing the womb: invisie women and the criminalization of motheood." also with us from portland, oregon, is k

don't you think just as an academic matter, neil gorsuch for whom you voted, don't you think he's probably going to vote to overturn roe v. wade if given the chance? >> i actually don't. i had a very long discussion with justice gorsuch in my office. and he pointed out to me that he is a co-author of a whole book on precedent. >> that was senator collins on justice gorsuch. here she is on justice kavanaugh. >> he noted that roe had been reaffirmed 19 years later by planned parenthood v. casey. and that it was precedent on precedent. he said it should be extremely rare that it be overturned. and it should be an example -- >> you have obviously full confidence. >> i do. >> today, senator collins reacted to the news with a brief statement, saying in part, it this leaked draft opinion is the final decision and this reporting is accurate, it would be completely inconsistent with what justice gorsuch and justice kavanaugh said in their hearings and their meetings in my office. senator murkowski today also suggested gorsuch and kavanaugh perhaps hadn't been completely honest. the comment was if i

it has been reaffirmed many times just this neil gorsuch is one of three justices nominated by president trump and confirmed to serve on the supreme court. he began his tenure in 2017. in light of the leaked opinion on overturning the 1973 roby wade decision american history tv is looking back at what the current members of the high court had to say about abortion during their confirmation hearings. just this elena kagan began serving on the court in 2010 the former harvard law school dean was nominated by president obama. she too was asked about the issue at her confirmation hearing. um, as i law after casey. it's that after viability the state can regulate as it pleases. except for situations where the woman's life or health interests are at issue. before viability the question is whether there is an undue burden on the right woman's ability to have an abortion. is it fair for the court to consider scientific changes and when a fetus becomes viable as medical science evolves? senator graham, i do think that in every area that it is fair to consider scientific changes. we've i've talked

neil gorsuch neil gorsuch . >>> unions provide in one word democracy. wall street didn't build this country. the middle class did and unions built the middle class, not labor, unions built the middle class. [ cheers and applause ] >> that was president biden today speaking at a labor union conference in chicago. the president reiterating his pledge to be the most pro-union president in american history. biden met with amazon labor union president christian smalls last week to congratulate him for taking on the big business. [ laughter ] >> you're my kind of trouble, can't stop, won't stop. small's visit to the white house followed his testimony before the senate budget committee where he politely schooled lindsey graham while donning a jacket emblazoned with "eat the rich" on the front and back. >> you're singling out a single company because of your politicize agenda to socialize this country. >> i think it's your best interest to realize it's not a left or right thing. it's not a democrat or a republican thing. it's a workers thing. it's a workers iss

justice neil gorsuch was asked about the 1973 decision as well. t has been reaffirmed. the reliance interest considerations are important there. and all the other factors that go into analyzing precedent. to be considered it is a precedent of the united states supreme court. [inaudible] considerations are important there. and all the other factors that go into analyzing president have to be considered. he's a president of the united states supreme court, it's reaffirmed in kc in 1992. and in several other cases. so a good judge will consider as president of the united states supreme court with the as treatment of president like any other. >> what about griswold, which was decided a few years before roe. the case where the court found constitutional right to privacy. can you tell me your views on griswold? >> senator, it's a president that's now 50 years old? griswold involved a right of married couples to use contraceptive devices in the privacy of their own home. and his 50 years old. there are light interests are obvious. it's been repeatedly reaffirmed, all very impo

susan collins is on the defensive after that draft leak mostly because two conservative justices neil gorsuch and brett kavanaugh who joined the majority to draft this opinion told senator collins that they would not do what apparently they just did. >> neil gorsuch for whom you voted is probably going to vote to overturn roe v. wade if given the chance? >> i actually don't. i don't believe that brett kavanaugh is going to overturn that roe had been reaffirmed 19 years later by planned parenthood versus casey and itt is present upon present and he said that it should be extremely rare that it be obvious turned, and it should be an example -- >> you have obviously full confidence. >> i do. >> senator susan collins to night could be wrong on two counts. she did offer this statement, if this leaked draft opinion is the final decision and this reporting is accurate, it would be completely inconsistent with what justice gorsuch and justice kavanaugh said in our meetings in my office. as chief justice roberts said, this is not the final decision and we do not know what that is norplications will be

lisa murkowski expressed dismay and that they feel misled by some of the justices, particularly neil gorsuch brett kavanaugh. they approved their candidacy but they were misled and statements during the hearings and in private meetings. laura: when do we find out the final ruling? reporter: we have to wait to find out how much this is a roadmap and homuch of this exactly comes to pass. this is typically when the supreme court releases. laura: as the u.s. braces for the ruling back of abortion rights, colombia, argentina, and mexico have expanded access to abortion in the last two years. will joins us from mexico city. is it easier to get an abortion in mexico than it is in texas? reporter: yes, in a sense it is. it is certainly harder in texas then in mexico city where abortion up to 12 weeks has been legal since 2007. there are plenty of other states that are moving in that direction. pro-choice campaigners, women's reproductive health campaigners are also able to help people obtain either abortion pills in mexico and all come to mexico city. we see the direction of legal traffic and moving

. >> don't you think just as an academic matter neil gorsuch for whom you voted, don't you think he'so vote to overturn roe v. wade if given the chance? >> i actually don't. i had a very long discussion with justice gorsuch in my office. and he pointed out to me that he is a co-author of a whole book on precedent. >> manu, what does senator collins have to say today? >> she says those comments were inconsistent with what she was told by gorsuch and kavanaugh at the time of those hearings. remember how significant susan collins' position was when it came to brett kavanaugh in 2018. at that time, it was unclear whether or not he would have the votes to get confirmed. but after collins had spoken with brett kavanaugh, after she heard the testimony about allegations of sexual assault against kavanaugh, which kavanaugh denied, and after he assured her on the issue of abortion, she came out in support of kavanaugh and later joe manchin supported him as well. she said today, if the leaked draft opinion is a final decision and this reporting is accurate, it would be completely inconsistent wi

that's why kavanaugh and neil gorsuch lied to senate, or why the co-chair of trump evangelical advisory said in 2018, "the left is going to try very hard to say this is all about overturning roe. but trump threw all that out the window when, in a craven bid to grovel for the support of the religious right, he just came out and said he would appoint pro-life judges who would overturn roe >> do you want to see the court overturn roe vs wade >> if we put another two or perhaps three justices on, that's really what's going to be -- that will happen and that will happen automatically, in my opinion because i am putting pro-life justices on the court. >> having to do with abortion, if it ever were overturned, it would go back to the states. so it would go back to the states and the states. >> some women won't be able to get an abortion. >> no, it will go back to the states >> by state. no, some - >> perhaps they'll have to go to another state. >> and that's okay >> well, we'll see what happens. >> seth: he is so cavalier about a woman needing to cross state lines for access to life-saving hea

neil gorsuch, roe v. wade is a precedent of the united states supreme court. it has been reaffirmed. brett kavanaugh, it is settled as a precedent of the supreme court entitled to respect under principles of stare decisis. amy coney barrett, roe is not a super precedent because calls for its overruling has never ceased, but it doesn't mean that roe shouldn't be overruled, it means that it doesn't fall into the cases that other cases. and add in alito himself, roe v. wade is an important precedent of the supreme court. yet here's what justice alito's draft opinion says. i quote, roe was ee greedgesly wrong -- egregiously wrong from the start and its decision has had damaging consequences. there was no mention of wrong from the start when we asked about roe. does seriously think that this was a sudden new epiphany that came over the federal society justices in the last few weeks? none -- none managed to mention their belief that roe v. wade was ee -- egregiously wrong from the start. whether it was outright lying or confirmation hearing hide-the-ball tricks. it

neil gorsuch, roe versus wade decided in 1973 is a precedent of the united states supreme court. it has been reaffirmed. breath kavanaugh, it is so as a precedent of the supreme court entitled to respect under principles of-- amy coney barrett. roe was not a super-precedent for calls for its ruling has never ceased, but it doesn't mean it should be overruled it just doesn't fall in the small handful of cases that no one questions anymore and add in alito himself, roe versus wade is an important precedent of the supreme court, yet, here is what justice alito's draft opinion says, i quote, roe was egregiously wrong from the start and the reasoning exceptionally weak and damaging consequences. well, there was no mention of egregiously at the confirmation hearings. there was no mention of wrong from the start when we asked about roe. does anyone seriously think that this was a sudden, new epiphany that came over the federalist society justices in the last few weeks? none, none managed to mention their belief that roe versus wade was egregiously wrong from the start. whether that was

and confirmed 300 conservative judges to our federal courts at every level including justice neil gorsuch, brett kavanaugh, and indiana's, justice coney barrett. [applause] i could not be more proud to have been vice president in the most pro-life administration in american history. we may stand on the verge of a new era in american life, an era where every life born and unborn is cherished and protected. including those three justices that our administration saw confirmed, with the help of kelly ayotte, i might add. we all know about the draft opinion. my hope and prayer is that the draft opinion of the supreme court soon becomes the majority published opinion of the supreme court and we send roe v. wade to the ash heap of history where it belongs. [applause] there are those who will say, before and after the decision is published by the court, overturning roe v. wade is somehow banning abortion. i am pro-life, i don't apologize for it. but let's be clear, overturning roe v. wade is righting an historical wrong. when it happens, will simply be returning the question of abortion to the st

it may be neil gorsuch in some cases and that has meant that the chief justice prefers a bit of an incremental approach to the law. the idea that you might not go all the way in overturn roe in this case is consistent with what he might do. but if there are five justices that want to go further than he does, then he doesn't control that decision. host: greg stohr covers the supreme court for bloomberg. we are talking about the leak of that draft decision and the future of roe v. wade. here are the lines. democrats (202) 748-8000. republicans (202) 748-8001. all others (202) 748-8002. the court affirmed that it was an early draft decision but also initiated an investigation. what will that investigation look like? >> some people have been calling for the fbi to start investigating. the chief asked the marshal of the supreme court who is basically in charge of security at the court to do an investigation and so that keeps it at least for now internal. we don't know a whole lot about that investigation. the marshal could perhaps call in some outside help with that investigation and we don't even

maybe cavanagh, neil gorsuch, and to that extent, the chief justice prefers a bit of an incremental approach to the law. the idea that you might not go all the way to overturn roe in this case might be something you might do, but if there are five justices, we want to go further than he does and he controls that decision and that is from this draft. >> we welcome your calls and comments. we are talking about the leak of that draft decision. here are the lines for democrats. it is (202) 748-8000, for republicans, (202) 748-8001, and for all others, it is (202) 748-8002. they did not waste any time after yesterday and they confirmed the decision, but also initiated the investigation of what that investigation would look like. some people are calling for the fbi to begin investigating and the chief would ask the marshal of the supreme court, somebody who basically charges security to do an investigation so that keeps it in internal. we do not know a lot about that investigation. we do know that the marshal could perhaps call on some outside help with that investigation paid we do not even know

republican senator susan collins says the draft opinion was completely inconsistent with what justices neil gorsuch told her when they said access to abortion was settled law. >> thank you. >>> the first major primary of t this election. vance was the winner last night. he'll face democrat tim ryan in november. vance made it clear, he's sticking by trump. >> they wanted to write a story that this campaign would be the death of donald trump's america first agenda. ladies and gentlemen, it ain't the death of the america first agenda. >> also in ohio, secretary of state franklin rose won his primary. he also got trump's endorsement. >>> overseas, russian forces are bombing ukraine. they carried out 400 strikes yesterday alone including in the western city of lviv. part of city lost power. meanwhile, more than 100 civilians safely evacuated from a steel plant in mariupol and have been safely relocated but hundreds remain trapped. >>> now to your money. a decision affecting all americans. a decision to raise interest ratss, bringing down prices while hoping to avoid a recession. >>> this morning, wall s

house speaker nancy pelosi issuing a joint statement referencing justices like brett kavanaugh and neil gorsuch who wrote roe is settled law and saying they have lied to the u.s. senate, ripped up the constitution and defiles both precedent and the supreme court's reputation all at the expense of tens of millions of women who could be soon stripped of their bodily autonomy. and the constitutional rights i've relied on for half a century. the anti-abortion rights susan b. anthony list writing in the draft opinion made public tonight is the final opinion of the court, we wholeheartedly applaud the decision. >> if roe versus wade is overturned it doesn't mean abortion will be illegal in the united states but it does mean that states individually could decide their own abortion policies. and we've seen dozens of states already preparing for this moment passing restrictive abortion measures, bans in anticipation that the court will go this far and give them the green light. >> at least one senator is demanding an investigation into how the draft opinion was leaked to the media. an fbi investigation

it may be neil gorsuch in some cases and that has meant that the chief justice prefers a bit of an incremental approach to the law. the idea that you might not go all the way in overturn roe in this case is consistent with what he might do. but if there are five justices that want to go further than he does, then he doesn't control that decision. host: greg stohr covers the supreme court for bloomberg. we are talking about the leak of that draft decision and the future of roe v. wade. here are the lines. democrats (202) 748-8000. republicans (202) 748-8001. all others (202) 748-8002. the court affirmed that it was an early draft decision but also initiated an investigation. what will that investigation look like? >> some people have been calling for the fbi to start investigating. the chief asked the marshal of the supreme court who is basically in charge of security at the court to do an investigation and so that keeps it at least for now internal. we don't know a whole lot about that investigation. the marshal could perhaps call in some outside help with that investigation and we don't even

she voted for justices neil gorsuch and brett kavanaugh, convinced they would not overturn roe. >> so a good judge will consider as precedent of the united states supreme court worthy as treatment of precedent like any other. >> one of the important things to keep in mind about roe v. wade is that it has been reaffirmed many times over the past 45 years. >> reporter: at the time, collins said she was given assurances. >> he noted that roe had been reaffirmed 19 years later by planned parenthood versus casey and that it was precedent on precedent. he said it should be extremely rare that it be overturned. and it should be an example -- >> you have obviously full confidence. >> i do. >> reporter: but that draft opinion indicates both gorsuch and kavanaugh will vote overturn roe after all. collins now says that's "completely inconsistent" with what they told her privately. collins supports codifying roe versus wade as federal law. but today she declared she will not support the democrats' bill because it goes too far. >> my goal is to codify what is essentially existing law. that means r

maine, a supporter of abortion rights, was a critical republican vote for kavanaugh and justice neil gorsuch, but today, in a statement, she says they may have deceived her. "if this leaked draft opinion is the final decision and this reporting is accurate, it would be completely inconsistent with what justice gorsuch and justice kavanaugh said in their hearings and in our meetings in my office." today, a spokesperson for the supreme court confirmed that alito's draft opinion is authentic, but added that it "does not represent a decision by the court or the final position of any member." but outside, at the steps of the court, it felt like the deed had already been done. she might grow up in a country without the choice. >> yeah. >> reporter: what do you think about that? >> it's horrible. it's so depressing. it's shocking. i can't believe it. and it makes me want to move to a different country. >> reporter: this moment, it must feel like triumph is at hand. >> indeed. it does. when i saw it, i was texting everyone, i mean, it was just -- what? it's incredible and -- >> reporter: with joy? >

solution for someone who's concerned about disinformation, which was precisely the point that neil gorsuch is justice gorsuch made in his concurring opinion saying we should take on this issue, but i'm concerned again about government attorney and the concern if you make it too easy to sue for public officials to sue then you're going to really chill news media going after those public officials in an aggressive way like they need to do to serve as a check on those officials in our democracy. so while i think defamation is a good tool i like the compromise that the supreme court crafted back in the 1960s one, which is currently under pressure that would require this. you know, the change that that thomas and gorsters talk to would make it much easier. sue for defamation that may be benefits misinformation, but maybe chills too much speech and our erwin. this is i know something you study. i know i shouldn't turn the tables, but i wonder where you stand on this question. um guys, i had a question to ask you my question that don't answer your question. okay, the follow question. i want to be

republican senator susan collins calling this decision, quote, inconsistent with what justices neil gorsuch and brett kavanaugh said in their confirmation hearings and in her private meetings with them before she agreed to vote for them. >> trevor: really, susan collins? you're really going to tell us didn't think the conservative justices were going to overturn "roe v. wade"? you didn't think that. that's their whole thing. it's like letting p let lettingn borrow your dots and he eats them all. i will say in? senator collins defense, it's insane supreme court justices can lie in their job interviews without any repercussions. you couldn't do that at kinko. if you claimed you were expert at clearing paper jams and all you could do is load paper you would be fired. technically, democrats could legalize abortion through congress if they get rid of the filibuster. the only problem is, they don't have the votes to do that. although, who knows? susan collins is so gullible, you know, chuck schumer can probably get her to sign on to the fill burster reform by hiding it in a birthday card. "just s

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then former president trump transformed the court with the appointment of justices neil gorsuch, brettvanaugh, and amy coney barrett. >> i like him and i respect him, but i think we have to use some common sense. >> reporter: trump repeatedly disparaged the judiciary and undercut roberts and his message of impartiality. >> this was an obama judge. >> reporter: prompting roberts to issue an unusual rebuke of a sitting president. "we do not have obama judges or trump judges, bush judges or clinton judges." with a 6-3 conservative super majority, roberts will have an even tougher time convincing colleagues -- >> they don't care if people die! >> reporter: not to overturn roe v. wade. despite his warnings during oral arguments about ignoring long-standing precedents. >> we look at it from today's perspective, it's going to be a long list of cases that we are going to say are wrongly decided. >> reporter: the court insists this draft is not the final decision. and base on his past patterns, roberts could still be privately writing an alternative opinion and sharing it with some of the other

overturn roe, it appears alito was joined in his majority by clarence thomas, brett kavanaugh, neil gorsuch and amy coney barrett. even though kavanaugh and gorsuch called roe the law of the land. >> it is an important precedent of the supreme court. >> that is the law of the land. i accept the law of the land, senator, yes. >> reporter: senator sue son c is an collins said today the draft opinion was completely inconsistent with what justice gorsuch and justice kavanaugh said in the hearings and in our meetings. president biden echoed concerns that this decision could serve as a template for limiting other individual rights previously recognized by the court like same-sex marriage and access to contraception. >> if the rationale of the decision were to be sustained, a whole range of rights are in question. >> we'll go down as an abomination, one of the worst most damaging decisions in modern history. >> we could pass a law to protect every woman's right to an abortion and we should do that. >> if this turns out to be the opinion of the court, it could have a major impact on the outcome of

personally, i got suspicious when neil gorsuch stopped wearing his pussy hat. ( laughter ) the opiniond dispense with half a century of precedent, was written by associate justice samuel alito, seen here hoping nobody notices he just dropped an opinion in his robe. ( laughter ) and, boy, is it a load. alito writes, "we hold that 'roe' and 'casey' must be overruled. a right to abortion is not deeply rooted in the nation's history and traditions." on the contrary, an unbroken tradition of prohibiting abortion on pain of criminal punishment persisted from the earliest days of the common law." because nothing says "looking toward the future" like adhering to the earliest days of common law. that's why i believe that life begins at white, land-owning male, and why horses who read should be arrested for witch-mischief. alito strangely argues that overturning "roe" is about bringing people together, writing, "'roe' and 'casey' have enflamed debate and deepened division." so he thinks this decision will make those divisions... better? "and now, to mend a broken nation by pulling the healing pi

map with the home addresses of chief justice john roberts, amy coney barrett, brett kavanaugh neil gorsuch back to you. this is beyond the pale come i think most people feel like, what say you? >> it absolutely is and i support legislation by senator cornyn with hearing for supreme court justice. that is not already the law. and people making the decisions and the country are not making decisions based on fear or based on danger to their family but following the law and the best interest of the american people and the u.s. constitution. >> kevin: erin your thoughts? >> you have heard from democrats before dark money groups and infiltrating democracy. i haven't heard a word from single democrats like senator sheldon whitehouse so adamant about the dark money groups in america talking about where the dark money group is that is behind this doxxing and targeting supreme court justice that are willing to pay stipends. who are the people behind this? will they be found out because this is a dangerous precedent to set where you are going to people's homes and into their neighborhoods when they h