i mean, i imagine keir starmer won't quite do what neil kinnock did . all do what neil kinnock did.k that could be, you know , seen as slightly you know, seen as slightly foolish to say the least. but i think , yes, you need to rally think, yes, you need to rally the troops. i mean, of course i would argue very much that, make sure you don't give labour this huge majority because otherwise super majority, no opposition to the government in parliament. and i spent 14 years in parliament. neil, there might be there might be an opposition in there might be an opposition in the shape of a different opposition leader, sir ed davey . opposition leader, sir ed davey. >> it's a statistical likely. i think sam friedman was saying somewhere between 20 and 25. the other day. but actually, i think this belies a really important point. this feels like labour are plotting this victory party already. the tory party and this is no disrespect to rishi sunak, who's bless him, had a tough campaign, they are on the ropes. labour are due to win, it looks like next week, with around 40 to 45% of the vote

did you mention the rally at which neil kinnock in sheffield said, "we're all right!"? idid.ur speaking tojim naughtie and it was the most extraordinarily candid thing. he said glenys, his wife, said, "it's not in their eyes." adam, you're imminent. yeah, i was listening to that. sojim naughtie, he's been doing these series of pieces for the world at one, where he's been travelling around the uk and visiting significant places. and as a geographer, as i always bang on about studying geography and how much i loved it, i love it when we bring places back into the conversation. and yeah, his piece about the sheffield rally, and i was just going to say exactly the bit that you picked out, paddy, which was neil kinnock saying, "yeah, we knew, me and glenis, "from going around the country two weeks out that we weren't going "to do it. " and that's interesting because a lot of the commentariat hadn't picked up that message. it wasn't until much later. but it is interesting because i always thought the last kind of two weeks of the election was, yeah, nothing that much ever happens b

did you mention the rally at which neil kinnock in sheffield said, "we're all right!"? idid.peaking tojim naughtie and it was the most extraordinarily candid thing. he said, glenys, his wife, said, "it's not in their eyes." adam, you're imminent. yeah, i was listening to that. sojim naughtie, he's been doing these series of pieces for the world at one, where he's been travelling around the uk and visiting significant places. and as a geographer, as i always bang on about studying geography and how much i loved it, i love it when we bring places back into the conversation. and yeah, his piece about the sheffield rally, and i was just going to say exactly the bit that you picked out, paddy, which was neil kinnock saying, "yeah, we knew, me and glenys, "from going around the country two weeks out that we weren't going "to do it. " and that's interesting because a lot of the commentariat hadn't picked up that message. it wasn't until much later. but it is interesting because i always thought the last kind of two weeks of the election was, yeah, nothing that much ever happens beca

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keir starmer keir starmer will go down as neil kinnock, who i've got so much love and respect for. get that mess history, his history will look upon keir starmer and say you saved the labour party, which was good for democracy. whether you're right wing , left whether you're right wing, left wing, any wing, they're clapping him and saying, well done , him and saying, well done, because you got that hard left and some of it was , you know, and some of it was, you know, the anti—semitic stuff that's so much of it was damaging . much of it was damaging. >> but he campaigned for that hard left for a couple of years. >> no, do you know what? >> no, do you know what? >> i actually just think he did what he needed to do to get to the position for us to get to this position . and sometimes this position. and sometimes sometimes that's what you have to do. >> did he know that was going to happen? he's not mystic meg, is he? >> no, he's not mystic meg. i just think, look, you know, history tells us neil kinnock stood up at labour party conference and he dealt with the hard left and we all lo

how much neil kinnock did to change the face of the labour party.anged the logo from a red flag to a red. >> he did something much more like some far more substantial things out. >> a lot of hardcore militant activists. >> yes . and if, i was normal, >> yes. and if, i was normal, i wouldn't recite that speech that he gave to labour labour council , a labour council, you, god and you listen, you sending out taxis to round up, redundancy notices, redundancy notices to its own workers. >> oh my goodness, all these pointed fingers in the studio . pointed fingers in the studio. it's all in good spirit. >> broken very bad welsh accents. >> i've just broken, the pretence that i was a normal person and had never placed a political bet by reciting a neil kinnock speech at like 1988 labour party. >> jon rahm brilliant john john says the problem with gamble gate is that they probably used an app which which will have your name, address, bank details, etc. they should have gone down to any run of the run of the street, high street shop and park to a bookies wit

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i felt sure that it was lost in such a landslide, but maybe paxman was distracted by neil kinnock, the former labour leader who joined us in the studio that night and dismissed the exit poll as implausible . i can see why he, implausible. i can see why he, having lost two elections, would find the revelation of a labour landslide personally very hard to take. there can be humiliation in victory as well as in defeat. candidates an election always know the result before it's announced publicly. you can see the piles of ballot papers arranged by candidate, andifs papers arranged by candidate, and it's clear which is the biggest. and also the returning officer reads the result privately to the candidates before the public declaration. and ours having done so, asked if every candidate was happy, ecstatic, i replied at the confirmation that i had lost . confirmation that i had lost. that was partly graveyard humour, partly because the labour victor, stephen twigg, looks shattered. after all, his life was about to be upended , life was about to be upended, but partly because i was genuinely r

but of course, michael, you'll remember the 92 sheffield rally with neil kinnock shouting well all righte conservatives, because i was a conservative in those days we expected to lose. i was going around the doorsteps and so i wasn't watching what was going on on television. and suddenly i tell you, suddenly on the doorsteps, there was a change in attitude and people suddenly started saying, oh, you're going to win, you're going to win, you're going to win. and it was because of the sheffield rally, because of the sheffield rally, because neil kinnock had lost control and had done this. >> we're all right. we're all right . punching the air was the right. punching the air was the victory rally before the presumed victory, he had assumed victory, which is something which i think labour would be very careful not to do this time. >> but nonetheless they're holding a rally. >> they are with celebrity endorsements no doubt. >> no, not that again. >> no, not that again. >> so there you go. i hate that classic. >> classic both very much. have a great show, sophie particularly have a great, fabu

. >> so that's neil kinnock. >> so that's neil kinnock. >> i would disagree with that, by the way.at i think that's age discrimination and they shouldn't do that. right. the problem is that the that if you get this supermajority that rob is talking about and the danger of laboun talking about and the danger of labour, you know, just dominating the house of commons, the lords becomes the only place that will actually oppose what is going on and scrutinise legislation. >> so god forbid you have god forbid, you have opposition labour peers. no. but first of all, it's like saint augustine, give me chastity. but not yet. so they say they want to abolish the house of lords, but they want to put all their cronies in. so let's say if they get a majority, then they don't even want the scrutiny in opposition of the lords. they just want all their cronies to vote everything through and that will be a disaster. well, it's rather than your crony that will be a disaster. well we don't well your cronies dominated. but no we don't. >> that is complete nonsense. >> that is complete nonsense. >> the

planning a big rally in london tomorrow with rumours of celebrities in attendance, but are they like neil kinnocktoo soon? and keir starmer has been explaining himself on bangladeshi tv today after he said illegal migrants from bangladesh should be sent back to, well, bangladesh . and i'll to, well, bangladesh. and i'll be chatting to george eustice, who's stepping down as an mp after 14 years as a former cabinet minister. he had a front row seat for the last 14 years of conservative led government. also tonight i'll be joined in my studio by my panel, former tory mp neil parish, labour activist aisha allah khan and lib dem federal board member callum robertson, plus former brexit party mep belinda de lucy will be . here. will be. here. >> good evening. it's 7:01. i'm cameron walker here in the gb newsroom. us president joe biden

. >> but what i'm trying to say is that keir starmer is much more neil kinnock than he is tony blair. that sort of soft left tradition, something that, frankly, the country hasn't seen, since the 1970s, really ? 1970s, really? >> well, i don't want to disappoint you here, tom, but there is no second tony blair and there is no second neil kinnock. keir starmer is in his own right, a serious and, and well, well regarded, individual from what he did previously. and then of course, he came into the house of commons in 2015 and i think from there on he's worked to get to a point where he is satisfied that he could be the next prime minister of the united kingdom. and that's what he is aiming to do. and that's why he's he's done the things like the manifesto in such a way that it does look like, for once, a pretty decent document. and let's just be honest, as people who are interested in these political things, not many of us actually do read these things all the time. every year or every four years. >> yeah, there you go. one of the one of the accusations i've, you know, as well as we do i

i suppose starmer then thinks he might be the neil kinnock sort of holding pattern candidate until somebodyough the ranks who might have a bit more charisma and personality. i don't want to be nasty to the labour leader , be nasty to the labour leader, but there is this sense to which he is quite robotic and bland and we've maybe witnessed that in recent tv debates. he's not blair, is he? and is that a problem ? problem? >> he's a different type of politician, but i think politicians make sense in the political context that they're working in. and today, what people want from their leaders is not perhaps a lot of spin and showmanship, but solid, consistent, reliable leadership. and i think that is what keir starmer is offering. i think you're quite right, though, to talk about the shift that's taken place. it is remarkable. five years ago, labour looked completely out of the picture. it was going to take years to recover in 2021. even only three years ago, the conservatives won that dramatic by—election victory in hartlepool. there was an opinion poll last week which showed the conservative

he's somewhere he's he's a sort of he's a neil kinnock or a sort of he's a neil kinnock or a john smithis tightening its rules on workplace relationships. now this is following the dismissal of their former boss over something similar. so we're asking our workplace romances acceptable. should you have to tell the boss if you happen to go out with someone in the office? we'll be debating this shortly >> good afternoon. britain. it's 1:23. now, the trial of former nurse lucy letby gets underway at manchester crown court today . at manchester crown court today. >> yes. she's accused of attempting to murder a baby girl in february 2016 when working at the countess of chester hosphal >> well, the 34 year old from hereford was previously convicted of a number of murders and attempted murders. >> well, joining us from manchester crown court is our nonh manchester crown court is our north west reporter , sophie north west reporter, sophie reapeh north west reporter, sophie reaper. sophie, bring us up to date . well, this morning the date. well, this morning the prosecution began their opening s

. >> ask neil kinnock in 1992. >> ask neil kinnock in 1992. >> yeah , yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah right. do stick with us because still to come, we had kelsey parker, who's the widow of the wanted's, tom parker, who sadly died from a brain tumour. she's telling us her story next. >> now. two years ago, the wanted star. tom parker sadly lost his life to a brain tumour. >> but cancer research for brain tumours receives just 1% of nhs funding. and many people are campaigning to try and get that changed and spread awareness as well. earlier on, we spoke to the widow of tom parker , kelsey. the widow of tom parker, kelsey. >> i'm 34 and i was widowed at 32 like i was no age. i had an 18 month baby, 18 month old baby. and yeah, like you're saying, with the two years, it literally feels like yesterday, but then also a lifetime ago that i've actually last saw him. i can't believe it's been. >> how long did you know? how long did you know before he died that he had got a brain tumour? >> so 18 months, 18 months. so he fought the brain tumour for 18 months. >> how did actually how did it fi

but how, meanwhile, jim on labour, says hoping labour have a neil kinnock election experience and fadeou're sitting on the on the fence, mate . i think sitting on the on the fence, mate. i think you sitting on the on the fence, mate . i think you should be more mate. i think you should be more up front about what you believe there, meanwhile, dickie on laboun there, meanwhile, dickie on labour. good afternoon. dickie says starmer's plans to kerb immigration and fine employers who bring in all these foreign workers is really just a rehash of reforms. employer immigration tax announced this week. they're all saying pretty much the same thing, aren't they , meanwhile, thing, aren't they, meanwhile, steve, on immigration, the last one says, well said about social care. they are undervalued. low pay care. they are undervalued. low pay doesn't mean low skill as an invaluable job. looking after the most vulnerable as my best mate is a care worker , i could mate is a care worker, i could not agree more. okay, now. so let me know your thoughts. you can do that. we can read your stuff out as wel

so you're right to say he has everything to lose, because when, a kinnock, when neil kinnock made hisi can get you wembley and i'll fill it. no, no, said john major, we'll go to manchester and do 500. how right he was , because that was the he was, because that was the finish for the labour party. so the point i'm making, andrew, you're quite right. he will have to make a mistake, yeah. where do you think it's gone wrong jeffrey? >> for the conservatives with all of the polls now suggesting it will be a significant drubbing, can you pin it on any particular issue ? particular issue? >> the british people always get a bit tired of a party when it's beenin a bit tired of a party when it's been in power for a very long time , i rememberjohn major time, i rememberjohn major saying .to me when we won that election against kinnock, they'll throw me out head first in five years time. jeffrey and i said, why prime minister? and he said, frankly, they've had enough of us. and i think that was true at the end of the blair brown government, they had enough. and i think the truth is the reason th

in 1992, the polls predicted that neil kinnock would win with the labour party, and that did not happeny votes that really count are the actual votes in the ballot box next thursday. >> yeah , a fascinating set of >> yeah, a fascinating set of results, and thank you for sharing them with us. and that's the founder and the ceo of electoral calculus , martin electoral calculus, martin baxter. martin, thanks for your time. always a pleasure. now you get lots more on that on the set of results or that major new opinion poll on our website. john, thanks to you. gb news. com is the fastest growing national news website in the country. it's got breaking news and all the brilliant analysis you come to expect from gb news. so get stuck in now. it's the final week to see how you could win our summer giveaway. £15,000 tax free and a whole host of treats on top now. lines close at 5 pm. this friday, so make sure that you don't miss out. here's all the details that you need to enter. >> it's the final week to see how you can win big this summer. first, there's a totally tax free £15,000 in cash to m

and what i was determined to do was to make sure that tony blair did not go the same way as neil kinnockrms of getting absolutely destroyed by the media. much more important was the strategy. and what you're seeing with sunak is he doesn't know the difference between strategy and tactics. so and when we talk this whole thing about spin so overblown, the real spin doctors in our culture are the journalists. they're the ones with the agenda. politicians have to work that. they have to get round it . but they have to get round it. but so i don't buy that. and if i can tell you my the best soundee can tell you my the best soundbite of all time was julius caesan soundbite of all time was julius caesar. veni, vidi, vici, the ten commandments is one of the best pieces of strategic communication ever so modern communications goes back to the beginning of time. but what we now have is a much, much harder media landscape. and it's become even harder because of social media, because of stuff like this, 24 over seven news, etc. >> before i ask you one question, because people will be shouting and sa

i remember the 92 election really, really well when everybody was predicting that, neil kinnock wouldle were saying that, and then, you know, as the night wore on, it ended up with john major carrying on as prime minister. so you know, the odds may be against us at the moment, but there are electoral upsets and even if the polls are vaguely right and don't shift very much, then what really matters if labour does get a supermajority, as various people are predicting that you need a strong opposition to hold the government to account, to be able to function as a proper opposition. if you have very, very few mps, you don't have enough people on select committees, you don't have enough shadow ministers and certainly shadow ministers with the experience to really take the experience to really take the fight to the government. and if you have a government with really sort of unfettered powers, then they're far more likely to do really sort of crazy things and bad things. and that's why you need a strong opposition . opposition. >> okay. anthony brown, transport minister, thank you very much

are hammering home the point that they're different from the hard left, just as tony blair and neil kinnock, the general voting public that labour has come back to the centre ground. so i think we'll be quite happy with that. >> but don't you think it'd be best just just to bury the word? don't even mention the corbyn word, because every time it comes back, people start to think, well, you voted for that 9”!!- think, well, you voted for that guy. you backed that guy twice. >> well, i think that might have been the strategy. but in the heat of a general election, when you're being attacked around the clock by the conservatives, it's obvious that the word corbyn's gonna come up. so actually deaung gonna come up. so actually dealing with it as keir starmer did would with a bit of a joke with a serious political point about the labour party coming back to the centre, probably works okay. rather than just reading out a script about how he was campaigning for the labour party in 2017. >> all right. and olivia utley that next, rachel reeves delivered a withering monologue she went through. rishi s

that there might be an error in the polls, as there was back in 1992 when the polls predicted neil kinnockdn't. so there could be polling error. and i hope that i think the conservatives are also hoping that keir starmer would wilt under the campaign pressure. that's we've seen a, you know, a couple of, maybe dodgy moments for the labour leader so far. but, he's not, he's, he's still holding in there i'd say. and so the debate coming up will be the conservatives test to see whether they can, put some pressure on on keir starmer and laboun pressure on on keir starmer and labour. but, if the polls continue, anything like they are at the moment, then, you know, labour are going to win, but there are still a few weeks to go and things may change. >> and martin, lots of talk about immigration today of course from reform. but the conservatives as well advocating proposing a new cap on worker visas and the like, some say this is an immigration election. is it ? is it? >> well, certainly talked about a lot on the centre right. the conservative and reform voters tell us are very often that immigrat

. >> well, he should have looked at perhaps michael foot and also neil kinnock and their antics, andve always, especially in america , kissed especially in america, kissed babies and done all sorts of other stunts to , to, to bring other stunts to, to, to bring them closer to their public. >> but i think they've always kept their dignity, dignity and statesmanlike manner . whereas statesmanlike manner. whereas here the politicians that we have at the moment are, are pretty much i'm sorry, but empty vessels, people who don't have a lot of substance and this is the time that it really shows when they get up to these antics of again, trying to show that they're part of the regular crowd and their regular guys, and they understand this and they really fall flat. i mean, rishi sunak, fishy rishi, you know, is just so divorced from the daily lives of ordinary britons and keir starmer. i mean, he just he just blows whichever way the wind is going and you can't really get a very solid statement about anything out of him. so i think that, yes, i think it's very embarrassing to see them do the

it was, the public not trusting neil kinnock. definitely not.rt murdoch on the sun, but i can also see there's a many people, there's a sort of long term disillusionment with the conservatives, but that's not met on the other side with instinctive trust in the labour party's agenda. and also remember, keir starmer's history with leveson, prosecutions of journalists when he was a director of public prosecutions, there might be a fair bit of, like a trust deficit that, that, that he, that he needs to build up and might be difficult. >> is there a trust deficit for women and the labour party? do they have a women's problem? and this is what kemi badenoch will be trying to persuade us all today that they do. >> i think they no longer do because keir starmer has come out and said, look, a woman is a woman. >> and yes, but five minutes ago he had a problem with that. so, you know, flikshop politically it has covered himself in glory when it comes to women. >> it is a political minefield. i'm not going to deny that. and |, i'm not going to deny that. a