>> i was in the car with neil nicol, my friend.fting through photos he took off the internet or someone had sent him or something. and i said, what's he doing with my picture, you know. it was pacino. they med him look so much like me. he had you down. >> oh, sure. >> larry: he had you down. they had your sister down too. >> yeah, yep. >> larry: when you did this show back in 1997 before going to prison you said you bugged people because you were very forthright and strident. have you changed? >> no. >> larry: will he ever change, morgan -- mayor? >> i don't think so. i think that to a certain degree he's mellowed, but he's not going to change. what he feels, he says. >> larry: the supreme court never -- they refused to consider his appeal, right? they didn't grant certiorari. >> yeah. that's quite a story. >> larry: briefly tell me. >> in 1997 they had the case wherein the supreme court said they really wanted a case where they had standing. in that particular case the person was not terminal and also was not in remedial pain and