neil rowland is someone i met later at oxford. he went on to become deputy secretary of treasury. it is nice when you find yourself looking across at someone you have long-standing relationships and deep trust -- >> what about some of your professors? >> some of them did. the way i came into the clinton administration was very much from the encouragement of several harvard professors that i was working for as a postgraduate fellow. >> name somebody that we know. >> ash carter, they had all been in and out of public service and were very encouraging of young people to follow suit. >> if you examine your own life and how you got to where you have been, what triggered that? where did somebody say, michele flournoy -- is that your maiden name? where would that have started? >> i think it was more -- i got very interested in issues, public policy issues specifically those of nuclear arms control. it seemed like the one problem, if we didn't solve the nuclear tension between the u.s. and soviet union, we wouldn't be around to solve much else. i think again, having the good fortune of ha

neil rowland is someone i met later at oxford. he went on to become deputy secretary of treasury. it is nice when you find yourself looking across at someone you have long-standing relationships and deep trust -- >> what about some of your professors? >> some of them did. the way i came into the clinton administration was very much from the encouragement of several harvard professors that i was working for as a postgraduate fellow. >> name somebody that we know. >> ash carter, they had all been in and out of public service and were very encouraging of young people to follow suit. >> if you examine your own life and how you got to where you have been, what triggered that? where did somebody say, michele flournoy -- is that your maiden name? where would that have started? >> i think it was more -- i got very interested in issues, public policy issues specifically those of nuclear arms control. it seemed like the one problem, if we didn't solve the nuclear tension between the u.s. and soviet union, we wouldn't be around to solve much else. i think again, having the good fortune of ha