. >> i know him as neil smith. >> george told detectives how he and shauna had prevented neil smith and the wife, you know, kind of looked at him like our little charity case, because he was a nice guy and, you know, down on his luck. >> right now, detectives knew that greyhound wasn't attic, big drinker. so they asked george -- >> was huge ordeal? or >> no. >> alcohol? >> yes, he would chicago. not a lot, but a beer to. >> just appear to, now and then? >> yes. >> in his interview with the detective, greyhound said that he and george were great friends, worked out together, drink together a lot. but then listen to this. as george kept talking, the man he said he knew as neil became noel. >> and she said, you know, can no help us out with this? if it was something that wasn't gonna, maybe no can, nor could be better at anything i was not. >> remember, he said he never heard the name noel stephens before? he knew him as neil smith. was it an honest little slip, or was george hiding something? >> is it possible that he was confused by the name? greyhound used several different names. >> wh

. >> all right neil, let's talk about jack smith trying to get trump's lawyer to testify in the classified documents case. what does that mean? >> one other thing that i wanted to say about this whole pence privilege thing is that it may not get pence anywhere even if he does assert this in court. because his claimants look, i am acting like a senator, i am not a senator, i am like one. but then he is subject to senate control. the senate, which is controlled by the democrats, can subpoena all of the same information, get it from him and turned it over to jack smith. i do not think that this is actually a serious thing legally, or practically. you are right, stephanie, that what jack smith has also done is notify some of trump's lawyers that he is going to try to get seek attorney-client privilege and get some of the information that trump gave to his attorney. normally you can't do that because attorney client communications secret. but there is an exception, declined fraud exception, that occurs when lawyers are actively assisting in a criminal act. you do not get attorney-client privile

neil: i think you're probably right about that. adam smithd services committee. thank you very much. we'll be pursuing this on your world on monday when we take a look at this with the likes of leon panetta and both parties over several administrations how to deal with a crisis that grows even as this thing keeps moving. get ready for a shock. the rate on credit cards is now over 22%. if you want to save hundreds of dollars every month, pay off the balances on your high-rate cards with a lower rate va home loan from newday usa and get the financial peace of mind every veteran deserves. no one takes care of veterans like newday usa. my most important kitchen tool? my brain. so i choose neuriva plus. unlike some others, neuriva plus is a multitasker supporting 6 key indicators of brain health. to help keep me sharp. neuriva: think bigger. think he's posting about all that ancient roman coinage? no. he's making real-time money moves with merrill. so no matter what the market's doing, he's ready. and that's... how you collect coins. your money ne

neil: so i talked to democratic congressman adam smith.ecurity and other related committees who said that china right now is the one that should be embarrassed. this is from congressman smith, take a look. do you think china wasn't embarrassed by this but might like this, might like showing the united states what it can do and leave the u.s. flummoxed? >> yeah, no. actually i think china is very embarrassed by this for several reasons. first of all, it is not a particularly effective surveillance tool. you know, we're familiar with the technology and what it can and cannot do. really nothing that their satellites can't see to a certain extent. neil: what do you make of that? >> well, first of all, we don't know what was on the chinese surveillance platform. we're taking a guess because now we're combing through off the coast of north carolina to see if we have, can recover any remnants of it. and secondly the embarassment i would believe of our allies look at this as, look, the decision should have been made very early to inform the chines

neil: good luck retrieving that. gillian turner on that. an issue i want to raise with jason smithans committee. assuming you're right, a lot of misappropriated funds here and maybe criminal actions going on here, how do you call that dough back? >> first off, this was the first hearing that we've been able to have. house republicans has been asking for it for several years. thank goodness we turned the lights on on what we believe is the greatest theft of the taxpayer dollars in american history. what we had testify yesterday is there was 191 billion in fraud. that was at the minimum. they're projecting that it could go as north as $400 billion. when 878 billion was in this program, you're talking about nearly half. we're going to have to help -- hopefully help that the white house will be a partner in this. we also requested the department of justice be part of the hearing. guess what? they refuse to participate. they have only been able to return a couple million dollars when almost $200 billion has been fraud. i hope the white house will show up. they don't like to have a lot o

neil, it is great to see you. first question is this, would the special counsel, jack smith, take this extraordinary step of issuingl subpoenaed to the former vice president and less he was very serious about prosecuting donald trump? >> i don't week -- don't think we can say it's about seriousness of prosecuting donald trump, it does show a seriousness in the investigation. it is a rare thing to have the subpoena of a government official, let alone someone like the former vice president. i think there have been three subpoenas of presidents -- thomas jefferson in the early 1800s, richard nixon during watergate, and bill clinton during the wtewater investigation. i'm not sure any subpoenas for vice presidents before. it is a big deal but we don't know enough about why jack smith is subpoenaing mike pence. we can guess that a good part of it is that pence was the focal point for the pressure trump and others tried to use to throughout the results of the election. geoff: i understand that pence could challenge this under executive privilege. how could this hold up under scrutiny, especially for mike pence, who has gi

smith, i don't know the answer to that, but i care about it and i will get back to you when i can. neilthat's very well-put, dave. you're right. we'll see what happens here. to dave's point though you don't get a second chance to make a good first impression, but you do get an ongoing chance to make up for the fact that you didn't. that will do it. was hiring local talent. if i knew about upwork. i would have hired actually talented people from all over the world. instead of talentless people from all over my house. not that into saving, are you? -whoa, dude... -money. cuz... cuz you paid too much for those glasses. next time, go to america's best where two pairs and a free, quality eye exam start at just $79.95. book an exam today at americasbest.com. ♪ come here! you know why people are always looking at their phones? they're banking, with bank of america. see cousin jimmy over there? his girlfriend just caught the bouquet so... he might need a little more help saving. for that engagement ring... the groom's parents. you think they're looking at photos of their handsome boy? they're n