now we're joined by political activist and social this campaign a father and media commentator neil wallis thank you both for coming on to the program to discuss this further start with you george the danish government says all the necessary conditions will be provided for those kept in asylum how likely is it that they're going to keep their promise george. well i think the biggest problem here is that as usual you have asylum seekers conflated with criminals the right wing media in the u.k. is jumped on top of this story and that all the headlines you know foreign convicts to be put on an island put in an island in the daily mail the sun that my. interlocutor used to work for and of course only in the sort of small print further down and you find out that it's also a failed asylum seeker pretty much so you have this terrifying conflation of people who are fleeing awful circumstances across the world in greater in greater numbers because of the wars that the west is responsible for and increasingly because of climate change and increasingly they're being they're being criminalized and i t

few lawyers saying this this is virtually all the progressive parties and i think it's rich for neil wallis to talk about people like me telling people what to think and when he worked for a very very long time for them out of that many people. that have a sort of progressive politics as i see it recognize to be have been a huge part of creating this incredibly divided society in the first place where the weather spectacular can sometimes wonder well but i really. have been used quite that clearly and i. prefer to bodies really that is all you don't want people to like i want to god told them things like we've finished my prayers and i let you all simply to chant endless cliches about multinational is what does not take away those basic things people are unhappy and that's why they smoke and it's an elected government that has done this where about seventeen million refugees at the moment and we're headed towards about two hundred million by mid century and it is a tragedy where increasingly you're criminalizing people who have fled very very difficult circumstances and just want to decent

so we put it up for debate here on r t with political activist george bada and media commentator neil wallis we're asking them basically do you think this island is a good idea. a so-called center right party you know getting into bed with the far right party and allowing them the opportunity to you know put these horrible racist cartoons out there i think just fuels the flames of this kind of divide and rule where more and more the social problems in european countries are being blamed on you know muslims generally and it's not just somebody of middle eastern appearance in this cartoon it's somebody you know specifically as a muslim the reason this government has done this. in denmark is because that's what people want and the people of denmark are fed up with people like. george telling them how they should think what they should think and who they should welcoming to that country when essentially it comes down to this i mean you know a few jump lawyer is telling the majority of people in the country. no we metropolitan. city know better than you do this isn't just a few lawyers saying thi

accident board for neil armstrong's flying simulator for the lunar module and trying to determine what had happened. it was very obvious the machine itself had failed. >> okay. wally, what would you think looking back over it -- you flew mercury, gemini and apollo. >> uh-huh. >> what do you think your biggest contribution was to the space program? >> i used the word earlier. commitment. i made a commitment to do the things i could do within the time frame i was willing to do it, which is almost ten years to the day. april to july, really, ten years of doing what i thought was appropriate. they got a man into space to make a man perform in space and to make the prelude of going to the moon and back. all those things were done. i thought i had a good time. >> there are some things i'm sure you look back on and say, that was a key to the space program. i really did something there as compared to just doing the job that you had to do. >> i would say i enjoyed gemini fully. i did apollo. approxima five hours in space, i was anxious to go up there for 9.3 days. i was bored tears up there for 11 days. i mean bored. fighter pilots like to fly for an hour, hour and a half,