i would just say to neil weinberg and others, it's businesses that create jobs, jobs create income and that's the source of consumer spending, i always look at it from the supply side. both stay where you are, you're both coming back, i want to walk through profits some more and get your stock market estimates and ask when will the fed start raising interest rates to rescue the dollar? mr. evans? this is janice from onstar. i have received an automatic signal you've been in a front-end crash. do you need help? yeah. i'll contact emergency services and stay with you. you okay? yeah. onstar. standard for one year on 14 chevy models. >>> we are back with optimist stefan abrams and less optimist, neil weinberg of "forbes" magazine. we've been talking a lot about the jobs that could be a big game changer tomorrow. do you think we will get a low number. our friend, joe lavorgne was down to 150,000. the consensus is about 3, 350,000. what's your take? how would you invest if you get a better than expected number, stefan? >> i have no idea what the number will be. i heard all the experts. if w

steve forbes, elizabeth mcdonald and neil weinberg with other our group. will this hurt lives or save lives? >> this will cost lives. this is a poison pill from the president who has no understanding of innovation. takes $800 million to $1 billion to bring a drug to market. you shorten the patent period you will get higher prices or entrepreneurs doing less risk taking because the raurds are rewards are cut short. david: quentin is this good or bad? >> i think we have to look at what drug companies document 30% of cost is marketing and 12% is r. and d. 25% of the drugs they make are novel. the rest are just sort of following on the way hollywood movies make schedules. they make sequel drugs. the fact of the matter is if they just stop producing so many ads all love to the ads they have on our show but if they stop marketing so heavily that would go straight to the bottom line and generics would be better. but they don't want to tell you the facts that that basically walking and going to church works as well as statins. david: in 2008 the drug companies spe

and neil weinberg is executive editor of "forbes. is this the right choice by the president to keep ben bernanke as a fed chairman? >> it was a happy day on wall street there. was a positive reaction to the reappointment of ben bernanke. obviously, we're not out of the woods. we're not in the financial crisis mode we were back in the fall, but there's a big question here. as you were mentioning, we're looking at a $9 trillion deficit. will the chinese keep buying our bonds? and the other issue is with the fed printing as much money as it is, does it have the ability to put on the brakes at the right time to slow this down so that we don't end up with hyperinflation and potentially the collapse of the dollar, which would kill the confidence that the rest of the world would have in the value of our currency and our bonds, and it would make the bond market dry up. >> so, neil, with all of that said and also factoring in reports that unemployment will be at 10% in this country, which means if people aren't working, they can't spend, they