but i think when neilsen comes out and starts saying, hey, latinos/hispanics are the number one consumers phones, for new technology, i think things will start changing. and organizations like ours are saying, hey, we're here, we're available. if you're going to build something, keep us in mind as not only a consumer, but as a maker. you should invest in what we have. we are the future of the country in many ways. >> this is the perfect time. the latest ratings showed that this is the number one watched show. the market is there. now is the time for these startups to take advantage of it. >> right. exactly. and i think you can also see if you meet some of our members, you also see that we have a lot of ties to a lot of the other -- a lot of the incubators and aek sell raters in the bay area. we're making our presence -- we're trying to help latino startups in any way we can. part of it is to help them realize and find other ways to connect in the bay area. >> there's risk involved. >> yes. >> i would imagine that the fear -- i saw a t-shirt that said, failure is not an option. but it's go

neilsenator kyl, let me switch around to your party's woes a whether we're making too big of a deal onsecurity and privacy issues the like, it seems to opened up a wound within the par making ni between the likes of rand paul and chris chrtie isn't changing. is this sort of like ap 1964 all over again for republicans where you have the rockefeller liberals and the goldwater conservatives or their versions today going at it? >> well, both parties are groups of people who come together for common good but who may believe differently on some things. and as charles krauthamer pointed out in his very interesting column today in the washington post, this does go back a long way. i'm not sure to the 1960s as you have say. there has always been two strains for republican party. one for more interventionist policy, one less so. they came together after the cold war and 9/11. now that sometime behind us, not too big of a surprise thatyou would have that debate cropping up again. can i say one oer thing about what byron said. i think he is absolutely right and it is important for folks to realize