when the congressman talked about the fact that nellie was hired by fusion, nellie ohr, do we know whened by fusion g.p.s. >> yes. she was hired by fusion gps in 2016. >> judge jeanine: this is right before the election. >> that's right. with a very specific purpose, judge gentleman gentleo she is fluent in russian. she is also a russia expert this was very well coordinated i agree with matt gaetz. congressman gates is right. this was an effort to bring russian disinformation into this dossier and into this election to affect the election. >> judge jeanine: gregg jarrett bruce ohr is in legal jeopardy. what can he be charged with. >> these are the documents, 63 pages, i have looked through them over the last few days i have had them and it's clear to me that he is in legal jeopardy. astonishing that he is still employed. here's why. bruce and nellie ohr's bank account is getting fatter and fatter because of the dossier that they're both peddling. he doesn't disclose it on federal regulations. he is required to do so. so, that is potentially a crime filing a false report. >> judge jeanin

when the congressman talked about the fact that nellie was hired by fusion, nellie ohr, do we know when was hired by fusion g.p.s. >> yes. she was hired by fusion gps in 2016. >> judge jeanine: this is right before the election. >> that's right. with a very specific purpose, judge jeanine to she is fluent in russian. she is also a russia expert this was very well coordinated i agree with matt gaetz. congressman gates is right. this was an effort to bring russian disinformation into this dossier and into this election to affect the election. >> judge jeanine: gregg jarrett bruce ohr is in legal jeopardy. what can he be charged with. >> these are the documents,rd 63 pages, i have lookedoo through them over the last few days i have had them and it's clear to me that he is in legal jeopardy. astonishing that he is still employed. here's why.ll bruce and nellie ohr's bank account is getting fattere and fatter because of the dossier that they're both peddling. he doesn't disclose it onpe federal regulations. he is required to do so. so, that is potentially a crime filing a false report. >> ju

jeffrey: part of them is nelly.never trusted roosevelt, and when roosevelt ran against taft, she basically said i told you so. he said, i know you did, my dear, and you are maybe even happier that you are right. he won according to the established rules of the republican convention, and he's furious roosevelt accuses him of stealing the votes. roosevelt supporters say taft has been railroaded through, and they have slogans like "choo choo." it's very adult. [laughter] and taft, it is understandable they would work themselves into a mutual lather about it, as is often the case. those are your closest to, when you get disappointed, have a breach, you become most inflamed by. so nelly is just working him up, he's complaining to her, convinced roosevelt is a megalomaniac that will destroy the republic. brian: you talk about nelly, her husband, the tapestry. why did you begin with that? jeffrey: i will let your viewers decide, but it struck me as meaningful. taft, secretary of war, goes to japan. the empress of japan off

i think that bruce orr is a disgrace with his wife nellie. for him to be in the justice department and to be doing what he did, that is a disgrace. that's disqualifying for mueller. mr. mueller has a lot of conflicts also directly. you know that. mr. mueller is highly conflicted. in fact, comey is like his best friend. i could go into conflict after conflict. sadly, mr. mueller is conflicted. let him write his report. we did nothing. there's no collusion. if he was doing an honest report, he would write it on the other side. because when you look at problems, look at what they did, including including with the russians, the other side. i can't hear you too well. turkey has been a problem for a long time. they have not acted as a friend. we will see what happens. they have a wonderful christian pastor, he is a wonderful man, pastor brunson. they made up this phony charge that he is a spy and he is not a spy. he has gone through a trial right now, if you call it a trial. they should have given him back a long time ago. turkey has, in my opinion

his wife nellie also worked at fusion gps, the firm behind that

athink bruce oor -- orr is this grace with his wife nelly, for him to be in the justice apartment and to do what he did, that is a disgrace, that is disqualifying for mueller and mr. mueller has a lot of you know that. mr. molly -- mueller is highly conflicted. tell me is his best friend. mr. mueller is conflicted but let me by his -- let him write his report. if he was doing an honest report he would write it on the other side. because when you look at criminality and problems, take a look at what they did including colluding with the russians, the other side. >> [inaudible] president trump: i can't hear you too well. you have the helicopter. turkey has been a problem for a long time. they have not acted as a friend. we will see what happens. they have a wonderful christian pastor, he is a wonderful man, they made up this phony charge that he is a spy and he is not a spy. he is going through a trial right now, if you go it -- call it a trial. they should have given him back a long time ago. in my opinion acted very badly. we have not seen the last of that area and we're not owing to

they have not even interviewed bruce ohr, nellie ohr or my client. >> sean: unbelievable. congressman, you were at the forefront of this subpoenaing documents well before you left congress. people don't remember you as a congressman with all due respect here. the president now has to step in and get all of this material redacted, fisa warrant applications and everything in between. >> yes, the president has to do that because jeff sessions is there in name own. he should have never recused himself. it was not a crimmial investigation. we have been through that. there is no reason why the attorney general can't make sure rod rosenstein recuses himself from the investigation. his name is on the fisa document. he should not be overseeing this investigation. he should be insisting and making sure that the congressional subpoenas are fulfilled. when it comes to making sure that people in high positions of the fbi are held accountable. you can take away their security clearances. you have to go through the office of professional responsibility but director wray and others can re

now we have nellie ohr, his wife. she's working for glenn simpson as fusion gps.he is a russian expert. she speaks russian fluently. and she's passing information along. and as you see these emails, they reveal this really tight knit relationship. i was talking to law makers today. they were emphatic about the fact that they needed to bring these people to depose them. they're going to bring them before the house oversight committee so they can question them about this relationship and the information they were passing to the fbi. >> clearly they're going to be doing that. goodlatte is going to be doing that. greg jarrett i'll go to you. we know it's a russian hoax, you wrote the book the russian hoax. but the issue is i think even more significant. that is that you've got all of these players, this cabal, conspiracy of people from the doj, the fbi, the hillary clinton campaign, fusion gps, paid for by the dnc, teeing up this russia collusion investigation. where does that leave all of these players, legally? >> well you need a calculator to count all of the regul

now we have nellie ohr, his wife. she's working for glenn simpson as fusion gps.he is a russian expert. she speaks russian fluently. and she's passing information along. and as you see these emails, they reveal this really tight knit relationship. i was talking to law makers today. they were emphatic about the fact that they needed to bring these people to depose them. they're going to bring them before the house oversight committee so they can question them about this relationship and the information they were passing to the fbi. >> clearly they're going to be doing that. goodlatte is going to be doing that. greg jarrett i'll go to you. we know it's a russian hoax, you wrote the book the russian hoax. but the issue is i think even more significant. that is that you've got all of these players, this cabal, conspiracy of people from the doj, the fbi, the hillary clinton campaign, fusion gps, paid for by the dnc, teeing up this russia collusion investigation. where does that leave all of these players, legally? >> well you need a calculator to count all of the regul

four, we know bruce ohr was in close contact with christopher steele and bruce ohr's wife nellie workedith steele on the dirty russian dossier that hillary clinton and company paid for. the ohrs were making money producing the anti-trump dossier while passing its contents on to the fbi even after christophers steele was fired. and disclosing their blatant conflicts of interest. well, only to the fbi but not where he worked with the department of justice. fifth, bruce ohr and the fbi knew that the contents of this dossier were unverified. by the way, based on my sources, they even said bruce ohr admitted it could never be used in a court of law. but it was used for fisa warrants? they knew christopher steele was hell bent on taking president trump down. bruce ohr documented that steele was "desperate" that donald trump not get elected.ha he was passionate about him not being president. sixth, despite steele's bias and lies bought and paid in the dossier for by clinton and the dnc and the fbi, the fbi still used the information as the basis for the trump-russian collusion investigation an

recollected and all the information we found this week indicate there's a connection between bruce ohr, nellie ohr his wife, fusion gps for whom she worked, glenn simpson and christopher steele. explain that to the audience >> this is highly significant because it shows a very contention shows relationship between the way they felt about donald trump which we know christopher steele had said to bruce ohr in the 302's, fbi

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steele met bruce and nellie ohr for breakfast.e said quote great to see you and nellie this morning, let's keep in touch on substantive issues. glenn simpson, founder of gps, is happy to speak with you on this if it would help. now, just one day later, and trump fbi investigator peter strzok opened up the investigation into the phony claims of trump russia collusion. did you see how this is all coming together? and after the election ended, and, just want to check. they are locally discussing along with your bureau colleagues. feeding the fbi, lies, misinformation, and propaganda. and they have been barred from working with the fbi in november of 2016 because of his leaking to the news media. let's also keep in mind the major role that this steele clinton paid for dirty dossier played in the fisa applications against carter page. we now have proof. bruce ohr likely funneled the dossier to the fbi, a document, he knew was op research bought and paid for by the political party in an election year. remember just yesterday on this pro

now we have nellie ohr, his wife. she is working for glenn simpson at fusion gps.he is a russian expert. she speaks russian fluently. she is passing information along, t and as you see these emails, they review a tight-knit relationship. i was talking to lawmakers today, and if they were emphatic about the fact that they needed to bring people to depose them. they will bring them to the house judiciary committee, the house oversight committee, so they can question them about this relationship and the information that they were passing to theth fbi. >> jeanine: clearly they are going to be doing that. it goodlatte is going to be doing that. but greg gregg jarrett, i will go to you. you we know it is a russian hoax, you wrote the book. even moret significantly, all of these players, this conspiracy e doj, the fbi, the hillary clinton campaign, fusion gps paid for by the dnc. where does that leave all of these players legally? >> you need a calculator to count all of the regulations and laws that have been violated here. not only did communist confederates that he a n

mike: then the president plan to go take security clearance of bruce ohr, wife nelly, contractor forusion gps which worked on the dossier about the president during the campaign, where are you on ohr's clearance? >> one that he can't do is he can't fire bruce ohr, he has protections, has to be fired for good cause and the president appears to find way to inflict pain on those who he disagrees with. this is what happens when you have, i think, an individual who appears to be reacting and not acting very presidential. there's no president, democrat or republican who has ever reacted this way towards civil servants who are doing job to protect the country and uphold system of justice we have. anyone on either side of the aisle and looks at this and are not disgusted need to reorder priorities. >> blocking the president from revoking security clearance, sees security clearance as punishing and intimidating the president's critics, is that more a protest from top democrat on the senate intelligence committee? >> mark warner will put republican colleagues to the test, is congress a separat

he loved the city and the community loved him. >> martin nellis was a city official serving since 2007esman. ready with a sound bite. >> martin has been hugely important to the community of pleasant hill for a tech aid. -- decade. his reach and involvement went beyond the definition of that position. >> the mayor was a colleague and a friend who gathered close to kneelis -- nellis was a shock. >> i'm going to miss him. >> on thursday he was riding a bicycle on the 1800 block in 1/2 yet. officers got a call about a collision with a big rig truck. neighbors were stunned. traffic has become heavier on a road that has no shoulder. >> the street my kids play in the front of the house. this is where we right bikes. >> it was common for him to run home. change into cycling gear and go back to work. he was a great friend to all of us. >> a man they describe as first to volunteer and organize community events and the last to leave. >> he gave so much this the lig senior clean up day. it breaks my heart to think about his kids. that's another legacy. three spectacular kids. >> they adored him as

but nellie taft really wants it. appeals to president to give her the tapestry and she hangs in the white house. nelly, whenay that she was exasperated by taft's constitutional scruples, said that he stood by the constitution, as usual. for me that is next half for his entire career. listed by the constitution as usual. decisionched every with constitutional terms and refuses to be persuaded by questions of personal gain. brian lamb: we are about finished. if you could sit down with taft, what would you ask him? jeffrey rosen: i would be so eager to ask what he thought about american democracy in the age of facebook and twitter. i think it would represent his constitutionalists nightmare, dystopia. his speeches are so eloquent, more eloquent the madison. he was a clear writer on the question about the mechanism of the american public being designed to slow down deliberation the people have second thoughts rather than acting their direct passion into law and should be required to allow hasty passion to cool so they ca

i think bruce ohr is a disgrace with his wife nelly.the justice department and to be doing what he did, that is a disgrace. that is disqualifying for mueller and mr. mueller has a lot of conflicts also directly yourself, you know that. mr. mueller is highly conflicted. in fact, comey is like his best friend. i could go into conflict after conflict. but sadly, mr. mueller is conflicted. but let him write his report. we did nothing. there is no collusion. if he was doing an honest report, he would write it on the other side because when you look at criminality and you look at problems, take a look at what they did, including colluding with the russians, the other side. [inaudible question] >> i can't hear you too well. i have the helicopter. turkey has been a problem for a long time. they have not acted as a friend. we'll see what happens. they have a wonderful christian pastor, he is a wonderful man, pastor brunson, they made up this phony charge that he is a spy and he is not a spy. he is going through a trial right now, if you call it

i think that bruce ohr is a disgrace with his wife nellie. for him to be in the justice department and to be doing what he did, that is a disgrace. jon: so in short, there is a lot more still to be learned about bruce ohr and his role in all of this? >> essentially, yes. it is still unclear whether the fbi even knew about the relationship and the connection that they had known that he was in communication with christopher steele. and also, if it had any effect on the current russia investigation. right now it is unclear to really say what happened and to make any real determinations, but it is definitely intriguing story line. jon: we will talk to you again in a few minutes. thank you. >> thank you. jon: national security advisor john bolton on a three-nation trip to discuss u.s. foreign policy. later this week, bolton heads to geneva where he will meet with his russian counterpart. when asked how the u.s. will handle russia and its denial of election meddling, bolton says he expects it to come up in their meeting. >> i'm sure we will have a

republicans are also raising questions about bruce's wife, nellie ohr and her work with fusion gps, theossier. nellie ohr, who is a russia expert relied on open source documents to pull together information on russian oligarchs. >> what we see, at every critical juncture, when we've been able to see something happen, every single time there was significant contact between christopher steele and bruce ohr prior to that. it could be an unbelievables coincidence. >> neither bruce ohr nor his attorney have made any comment there have been any answers directly from ohr about why he was communicating with christopher steele or did hand over some information to the fbi after they ended their own relationship with christopher steele. and today after grilling ohr for eight hours, conservatives say they want to call back glenn simpson, the founder of fusion gps as well as former fbi attorney lisa page. they want to ask them more questions at a public hearing. >> thank you very much. >>> "outfront" next, jeanne moos dials up the mean machine after trump's technical difficulties. >> you want to put

why wouldn't mueller reach out to the ohrs. >> bruce ohr and nelly ohr two different people, nelliganave a career without her husband. >> they are husband and wife. shannon: i agree with you. it is very offensive to people in washington when people are linked together. she was working on the dossier. >> let me continue. point number 2, bruce ohr, not to mention the fact he spent ten years investigating russian mobs and this type of russian oligarchs, he talked to mobsters and gangsters. it has nothing to do with the russia investigation. the russia investigation -- it had nothing to do with carter page. shannon: they found a lot of information that leads to questions about what triggered this. >> what this exposes is a deep state attack on donald trump and it is not just the justice department, not just the fbi but the mainstream media as well. let me finish talking, you have been talking the whole session. the president understand this, the american people understand this, people who listen to my radio show understand this, they stand with the president and it is time to drain the sw

shannon: the list is bruce ohr, nelly ohr, glenn simpson and other officials, will they be subpoenaed? when would you hope to hear from them? >> those that work for government now, we should not have to subpoena them. they should do what bob and i did weeks ago which is in the lists to the department of justice, these are your employees we want to talk to. that has fallen on deaf ears. chairman goodlatte is a patient man but we have run out of patience. i talked to him at length. they need to set this writer there will be a subpoena issued, the speaker will back off, goodlatte will back it up, there is no reason not to make him available. shannon: a lot of folks would like to know what it means, are you still able to help us and i went to get to other questions about the mueller investigation because there is back and forth about agreement for the president to sit down, he seems jonesing for the chance to do it and everyone is telling him not to. the constitutional lawyer says this. enough is enough, time to subpoena the president. mueller has been differential and patient while trump

he's a disgrace with his wife, nelly.or him to be in the justice department and be doing what he did, that is a disgrace. mr. mueller has a lot of conflict also. mr. mueller is highly conflicted. in fact, comey is like his best friend. i could go into conflict after conflict. host: former cia director john brennan responded to president trump taking his security clearance last night on the rachel maddow show on msnbc. [video clip] "washington journal [no audio] >> [no audio]n journa host: let's go to marry. -- mary. caller: i'm calling from detroit. usr.o and good morning, that's what we are turning into, a banana republic. host: let's go to john calling from palm springs, california. john, good morning. caller: good morning. we are losing a lot of intelligence experience from both parties for many, many decades. i think this is a very bad idea that we remove security clearances just for political revenge. host: thank you, john. let's go to emily calling from san francisco, california. good morning, annalee. -- good morni

i think bruce ohr is a disgrace with his wife nellie. >> we know bruce and nellie ohr like. >> securitylearance is a very, very important debate. i have ha tremendous response for having done that if anything, i'm giving him a bigger voice. many people don't even know who he is. >> two days of deliberations, still no verdict in the paul manafort fraud trial. >> i think whole manafort trial is very sad. when you look at what's going on there, it's a very sad day for our country. he happens to be a very good person. >> expression i used the other day is of course america is great. of course america has always been great. >> he is going to walk away from this experience sorry for being so bad at politics ♪ party rocking in the house tonight ♪ everybody just have a good time ♪ and we going to make you lose your mind ♪ we just want to see you ♪ shake that. ed: take the weekend off get todd piro dancing on the couch. todd: it's what we do in the state of knowledge. like the turkey call i made on the roller coaster overunder on the audio is play it i'm going with five. ed: we should do it a lo

bruce orr, nelly orr, fusion gps cofounder glen simpson.headed here and how likely is it that that subpoena will win out? >> well, better late than never. i'm glad he's doing it. i think it's a critical piece of information that the public has got to have access to. we're already suing -- in fact we sued to get ahold of the orr, gps, steele communications. we filed those requests literally months ago to exhaust the administrative process so so it was ripe for litigation. he was issue a subpoena and act quickly which is great. he should. we were ahead of him in hopes that we could get it through the legal process. as long as the information gets out, that's the important thing. lou: it's nice you have the confidence that that's going to succeed. do you really have that kind of confidence and if you have confidence, high, medium, low krfd. >confidence. >> i think it's quite high based on judicial watch -- lou: i'm talking about the judiciary s subpoenas. >> they've had to pull teeth to get anything. i expect more gamesmanship. i'm glad they'r

they hired d14 and ohr's wife, nellie. mark meadows took part in the interview today saying that he believes 99% of the doj workers are patriots but the actions of some officials would raise alarm bells. watch. >> i think really our republic in the integrity of the fbi and doj is at stake. we have several that took things into their own hands and so with the credibility of legal justice that should have a blindfold and yet we are seeing that they were peaking and trying to tilt justice one way or the other based on their own political bias. >> so christian, we will go to your first and get your take on this as an employee of the government. it's probably not a good thing that he's getting hauled up from his perspective to answer the questions. and we will find out what happened with the congressman answering questions about what's your perspective? >> christian: it's never good if you are a bureaucrat to be on the front of newspapers. this is part of the 99% of the fbi being patriots i think is a great statistic because of

it's also important to note that since an employed his wife, nellie, this part of the research. the house republicans explained their strategy today on fox. >> want him to confirm what we already know from hard evidence, that he and his wife were part of a conspiracy to create this narrative of involvement and wrongdoing by the president relative to the russians. we have a lot of evidence, but now the question is, can we get him to confirm the evidence or will he deny the truth right before us in writing. >> molly: the department has so far declined to comment and it's important to note that he will be appearing voluntarily on the hill tomorrow. probably? >> molly: text messages between ohr and steele went further. >> that's right. 2017 text messages asked ohr to be his go-between between russia and the special counsel. "we are frustrated with how long this is taking. anything you do can be much appreciated. six months later, ohr confirmed that he had pestilence questions and cohen is now in question. we have heard nothing from them either to say this is disappointing would be a

indicating he will issue new subpoenas for testimony from obama justice official bruce ohr, his wife nellie or, with courses on the payroll effusion gps. and the cofounder of that opposition research firm glenn simpson. after a series of scoops from johnson on moment of the hill newspaper, including a story's intent may have given bruce ohr some kind of a thumb drive shortly after the 2016 election that may have had dirt on then president-elect donald trump. these stories are revealing new emails, text messages, that suggest bruce ohr throughout the 2016 campaign was in close contact with former produced by christopher steele of course was putting together the dossier from fusion gps. the dossier alleging that the president's team was colluding with the russians. this new correspondent also at the new wrinkle. it shows that christopher steele was lobbying ohr to help a russian oligarch get a visa. he was a billionaire blocked from traveling to the u.s. more than a decade ago because of suspected russian mob ties. in february 2016, steele emailed ohr that the oligarch had a visa and added "i

i think he is a disgrace with his wife, nellie. for him to be in the justice department and to be doing what he did, that is a disgrace. >> reporter: as you pointed out this is likely the first of many revocations yet to come, which is something we will be carefully watching here from the white house because as you can well imagine as the names come out there will be plenty of new surrounding that. >> harris: thank you very much. anthony scaramucci, former white house give indications director was watching all of that with me. the president calling out bruce ohr and his wife, nellie. were you surprised to see this tech along now or may be a second security clearance taken by the president? >> i'm not surprised because sarah went through a list of people that would potentially have their security clearance -- >> harris: there were nine. >> i understand the president is so upset, and i do believe that he gets exonerated by the mueller report. maybe there are some people on the periphery that the things that were inappropriate but i r

mayor, good to see you. >> good to see you. >> sean: got ohr, steel, nellie ohr.an lies. >> can it get any worse? what do we need to know that this is a totally illegitimate investigation based on a report, a dossier that was paid for by hillary clinton and the democrats. probably the biggest illegality so far, the biggest delusion s. far. >> sean: or conspiracy. >> completely made up. led to nothing except several fraudulent fisa wires. and now we have mueller, who doesn't seem to care that he's sitting on top of a totally illegitimate investigation. >> sean: nothing about the dossier that she paid for in the fact that the fbi paid steele, it was designed to misinform the american people with russian lies to influence the election. there's a great irony here. >> maybe if mueller and his band of whatever they are, democrats, right, or fair-minded, maybe they would investigate -- maybe that's the collusion. be that's they collusion. >> sean: did you ever hear the adam schiff tape that we played? just dying to get naked pictures of trump with a a russian on tape. th

i think bruce ohr is a disgrace with his wife nelly.or him to be in the justice department and doing what he did, that is a disgrace. >> so the president likely to strip his security clearance very soon. bruce ohr a government prosecutor and previously served as associate deputy attorney general until late 2017. in the past week he and his wife nelly have recaptured the president's attention with references to the couple in his tweets and ohr has become a target of his allies who pointed out he worked at the department of justice the same time his wife was a contractor for fusion gps and that is the research firm that helped compile information about trump for that steel dossier. joining me to discuss, allen smith and reporter curtis lee, los angeles times national correspondent nata back os and templeton fellow. curtis, so for those who aren't familiar with bruce, who is bruce ohr and why is he a big deal here. >> bruce ohr is -- he's this low-level justice department official. i mean he -- he's not this high-ranking official. he's kno

i think bruce ohr is a disgrace with his wife nelly. for him to be the justice department and to be doing what he did, that is a disgrace. reporter: bruce ohr is slated to testify to the house oversight committee behind closed doors on capitol hill on august 28. mike: jennifer griffin live in washington, thank you. eboni: senate minority leader, chuck schumer, say now that he will meet with supreme court nominee, judge brett kavanaugh next week. the near democrat had previously declined the meeting until the nominee gave record from the time at the white house and wanted to see those relays. today the committee is releasing more documents from his time as a white house lawyer for president george w. bush. but earlier this week, chuck schumer said that they are prepared to fight for his records. >> we give them all of kiggins documents we give them all of sotomayor. they are not giving us that for judge kavanaugh. today we are not and we stand ready to sue the national archives for judge kavanaugh 's full records if necessary. eboni: for

bruce and nellie orr. you think somebody with that capacity and legal mind would know better. >> tom: that is surprising to me, too. the people in washington, you have two career couples, people doing things, i never would say you have to have a per se bar on anything your spouse is involved in. >> harris: why wouldn't you say that? corporations have those types of things. >> tom: you see judges all the time, they might be married to some one who's a lawyer, could their interests affect that. if it's something they worked on directly you have to step aside. that's why in this case i would say if i were in bruce orr's shoes, we're still getting the facts, but in this case his connection was so close that he should have stepped aside. >> katie: they did on it purpose. not that they thought there was a conflict, they were using the power of justice, the fbi, combined it with fusion gps, nellie ore was required to go against president trump. they weren't thinking about the conflict, they were thinking about it

. >> i think bruce ohr is a disgrace with his wife nelly, for him to be in the justice department andt he did, that is a disgrace. jillian: what questions does ohr need to answer today? commentary writer at the washington times, thank you for joining us this morning, you say there are two big questions, what are they and do you anticipate getting answers? >> an entire universe of things you can ask this man. the forest gump of the russia investigation. he was at the department of justice and involved in the russia investigation. his wife nelly ohr was a fusion gps, he did not disclose he was financially benefiting from an active federal matter he was involved with and finally he happens to be friends with christopher steele. republicans are going to be chomping at the bit. it is going to be up to him to decide whether or not to play ball. rob: let's read a statement from mark meadows, republican looking into this quite a bit. bruce ohr's wife worked for clinton campaign to write the campaign. the fbi use the dossier to spy on a trump campaign. while working at the ohr has b, and what

comey, mccabe, bruce ohr, lisa page, peter strzok, ohr's wife nellie. these should be household names now. and people should ask themselves why would these folks be there? why were they tipping the scales politically? and if it is meritorious. why do people have security clearance. some no longer do why do some? ainsley: talk about the press. editorial board newspapers across the country. like 380 i believe attacking the president. the president yesterday at the cabinet meeting he said he was joking about freedom of the press. listen to this. >> >> i want thank you. thank you all for being here. if you would like, you can stay. or, if you would like, you can also leave. [laughter] don't forget, freedom of the press. ainsley: kellyanne, what's your response. >> he does believe in free document press. it's shocking when you have so many people now nakedly wearing their politics on their sleeves and not reporting the news. just offering their opinion, particularly in their capacities on news programs and on social media. i said many times it would not pass

nellie ohr can have a -- >> they are husband and wife! >> shannon: i agree with you.is very sensitive to a lot of people in washington when people are linked together. the problem is that she was working on the dossier that ohr was channeling to the fbi. >> let me continue. a couple more points. bruce ohr documented that he talked to steele, not to mention that he spent ten years investigating russian mobs and this type of russian oligarch, which means he talked to two mobsters and gangsters every day. >> shannon: why wouldn't mueller want to talk to him? >> it has nothing to do with the russia investigation. in the newness memo, the last line says the russian investigation was trader -- >> shannon: what we are hearing today, and a lot of information along the way -- >> the carter page fisa warned, not the mueller investigation. >> shannon: questions about what triggered this. they say it will go public eventually. >> i think what this exposes it as there is in fact he deep state on president trump. it's not just the justice department, not the fbi come with the mains

nellie ohr was a consultant for a political consultancy.ably was contracted to do some russian-speaking work and that's far from being an employee but the most important point, i'm the only person with pain all the things we shouldn't be transparent about all this. he is an unprecedented maneuver to get the memo out of his committee, we put a fisa memo in front of the public. according to "the new york times," russian sources in america's sources the report to the cia have gone underground, we do not talk to them anymore as a result of perhaps most likely the outing of a cia informant who was a former republican guy working at cambridge university. this is all unprecedented, really bad for national security and is a reason it's called a representative republic. we are not supposed to be privy to this information. >> as long as the american public doesn't have all the facts, they are in the dark and some people think there's a conspiracy by the fbi to get donald trump, others do not believe that is all, they still think it's a political talk

why don't you investigate james comey or peter strzok or andrew mccabe or bruce ohr and his wife nellyhis wife had a job with feution gps, the company hillary funneled her money to to get the take dossier to get dirt on donald trump. here we have bruce ohr not even disclosing that his wife is work for the agency paying for the dossier. bruce, are you side? your position as the government cleaner are etched in the record. after four americans are murder in benghazi, why would you say the fbi couldn't get to benghazi in time. it could two or three weeks? they needed someone who would say the fbi couldn't get to benghazi since it was way too dangerous. bob, you look and sound like a fool. cnn and just about every newspaper in the country, in the world got there. they made there it, but the fbi couldn't? i get, a good cleaner wants a crime scene as trampled as possible. but you know, bob, we are all getting tired of this and this comes down to your effort to get donald trump indicted and you are panicking. you got nothing. talk of subpoenaing him is ridiculous. and bob you should know bett

attorney for utah has not talked to not only bruce ohr or nellie ohr, but my client doug campbell and uranium one. there's so much coming out. fall of 2017, republican members of congress were demanding special counsel, federal issues and uranium one the fisa wiretap. in november, the assistant attorney general rights to the congressman and says we are in charge, but a senior prosecutors on it and we are going to evaluate your accusation very quickly. not investigate, which is what i used to do at the department of justice. but evaluate in the highest standard of justice. march 2018, jeff sessions comes out and says guess who i have in charge of all of this. i had john huber whose the u.s. attorney. in charge of looking at all of these issues are uranium one and surveillance. and now, nine months later, not only has bruce or nellie ohr been interviewed, but my client says to send his regards has not been introduced. how can you even evaluate those two issues about talking in those three people? how? is a sham. lou: it's a cover-up from start to finish. >> i'm appalled. lou: it is your

bob goodlatte hears from bruce ohr and his wife, nelly and glenn simpson.pson hired steele to compile dossier while nelly worked for fusion gps. there subpoenas could come next week. congress zeroing in on people surrounding the discredited dossier. john solomon says that document is the worst intelligence gathering he has ever seen. >> there were three spies in the trump campaign, manafort got booted, carter page got booted, michael cohen must've been the third. he knows somebody in russia. ohr takes it out, runs to the fbi and does an interview. why is this important? the fbi fired christopher steele and said it could not take any information from this office of research operation, bruce ohr walks in the door after the firing. it concerned the fisa court concerning professional intelligence, people i talked to, look at these notes and said this is the worst form of intelligence gathering we have ever seen. rob: most of the steel dossier remains unverified. jillian: california lawmakers taking up a bill that could make the state the first amended medicatio