it must have taken got to do what nelly bly did.she made her reputation pretty quickly. >> what reallyen struck about yr book, there are incredibly vivid people, you don't learn about or if you have been to journalism school, even if you're interested in the gilded age, they don't seem to come up they are the source for many of the stories we think of as being part of this era of reform questioning authority. beyond nelly, a recognizable name, could you tell us a little more about the other women you wrotee, about. >> short, i'd like to highlight how fascinating it was to read your book after finishing writing this because polls a lot of the same events and describe same decades on the magazine side as opposed to the newspaper side and it was great to have that cracked open. i was reading about another interesting journalist in western pennsylvania but yes, part of the fun of the book was undercover woman after woman who had an interesting life and did such amazing work. one of the people in the story was his character who never had

it must have taken such guts to do what nellie bly did.ems really concerned that she made her reputation pretty quickly and and inaugurated this newan genre. what struck me about your book is there are these incredibly vivid people. you don't learn about in history class or even if you've been in journalism school, even if you're interested in the gilded age they don't seem to come up but there is a source for so many of the stories that we think of as being part of this like era of reform and questioning authority. beyond nellie bly who i think is a pretty recognizable name, would you tell us a little more about some of the other women you wrotee about? >> sure. i would just like t to highlight how passing was to read your book after finishing writing "sensational" because it told a lot of the same events and described a lot of the same decades but from the magazine site as opposed to the sensational newspaper side. it wasna great to have that perspective. as was reading about shockingly another interesting journalist from western pennsyl

hing for back there been multiple different versions of the nelly bly story.now about the other women who came in her wake. i think there are a lot less about them. another spin a lot of nonfiction about ib wells. i could see this as a podcast series. you should start one. [laughter] note too self. i'mor curious to for the women who were married, do we have any idea or knowledge of what the husbands thought of their work? were they supportive? spirit get very sprayed all the women's stories were pretty individuals. if you think about the three that i mentioned, so nellie bly married a very rich very old man. kind of thinking she was going to retire from reporting. but then within a year things started to go sour between them. and she was back reporting maybe as a way to make her out income or assert her own independence. she would return to reporting throughout her life. she would do various things and break away from it. but she kept coming back, and back, and back and in the reporting on world war one among other things great nelson disappeared the minute sh

it started with nellie bly, and people heard about this era it's nellie bly and she as a young womanern pennsylvania kind of finagled her way in. and that didn't hold her back, she's ambitious and slightly over a year, new york is the place to be and i'm going to new york and work for the best papers in the country. she spent long months there trying to find a job. and it was competitive and everyone want today work for the same papers that she wanted to work for. women were not in high demand, as a utility reporters. but she got her first assignment and at joseph pulitzer's the world, and volunteering to get herself committed to an insane asylum for women and she had ten days there and came out with an explosive expose', the horrible way that the women were treated. many weren't mentally ill, many seemed to be poor or broken english or families want today get rid of. on the one hand it was a valuable piece of investigative journalism and on the other hand, she told it in a way with irresistible reading. she had a first person narrator, used a lot of theme and dialog and the characte

>> is been multiple different versions of the nellie bly story. spent a lot of nonfiction. i could see this as a podcast series also. [laughter] i am curious to for the women that were married, did they have any idea or knowledge of what their husbands thought of their work? were they supportive? all the pretty stories were individuals. think about the three we mentioned very rich very old man. kind of thinking she was going to retire from reporting. within a year things are to go sour between them. she was back reporting i think as a way to make her own income or certain independence. she returned to reporting throughout her life. to do various things and break away from it. she kept coming back and back and back ended up reporting on world war one among other things. nelson disappeared the minute she got married. she got a beautiful house in new jersey, had two daughters, i don't know they have her things of which to use and things like that. she married a pulitzer, pulitzer sort of right hand man actually within he remained very involved at a very high level in the newsp

victor really got its start with nelly bly people have heard about any reporter of this era is probably a young woman in western pennsylvania for naegele to her way into a job with dispatch without a lot of experience. but that did not hold her back. she was very ambitious. sutley more than a year sharda said new york is the place to be. i'm going to go to new york and work for the best papers in the country. she spent long months they're trying to find a job. it was very competitive everyone wanted to work for the same paper she wanted to work for. and women were not in high demand because it was very utility as a reporter being very limited. but she got her first assignment and hurt in by volunteering to get herself committed to black rolls in a sane asylum for women. she spent ten days there she came out this really explosive exposÉ about the horrible way that women were being treated in the fact that many of them were not even mentally ill they were just poor or immigrants with poor english. or women their families wanted to get rid of. on the one hand is a really valuable peace of

year all of these newspapers all of a sudden want today hire young women to do stunts similar to nellie bly. ... to watch the rest of this program visit booktv.org, search for kim todd or the title of her book sensational using the box at the top of the page. >> welcome everybody to the student politics and global affairs at purnell universities and author series sponsored by bernard schwartz. the night "madam speaker: nancy pelosi and the lessons of power" written by susan page. had a nice conversation with susan page. she'll be interviewed by myself and we'll throw it open to your own questions at about 7:35 pierpont welcome our friends at c-span who are with us this evening as we tape and for those of you unfamiliar with the pursuit of politics and global affairs at cornell we have one simple mission, and that is to deepen discourse and raise understanding on complex issues in a bipartisan way. before we begin all a bit of housekeeping if i i may. on may 12 at 7 we featured a program on education politics setting the stage for the 2021 elections and 2020 elections featuring congresswoman